Talk:2020 Minneapolis park encampments

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Move to "2020–2021 Minneapolis homeless encampments"

Hi Minnemeeples, really excellent work on this page, thank you for documenting the encampments. I'm wondering if this should be moved to "2020–2021 Minneapolis homeless encampments" since they did persist into early 2021 and newsworthy events did occur at the encampments this year? Thanks! —Collin^{t c} 23:18, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the discussion, Collin. The article is about the unique homeless encampment event in 2020 in city parks. The event had a defined beginning (pandemic hitting Minnesota), an inflection point (civil unrest), and an end to it (last permitted encampment closed). While the event ended, you are right that the issue of homelessness and encampments certainly persists. I do worry that if the article were 2020–2021 Minneapolis homeless encampments, it would no longer be complete (from an event start and end date), and would need to include the Near North encampment issue in March 2021 you mentioned and everything else that might follow in 2021...then anything that might happen as a result of that in 2022, then in 2023, 2024, etc. At that point, the article must become Homelessness in Minneapolis in the 2020s or just Homelessness in Minneapolis, and then a separate article is needed just for the 2020 events as they might be undue when weighed against many years.:) As an aside, I hope another editor creates a Homelessness in Minneapolis or Homelessness in Minneapolis–Saint Paul article (see Homelessness in the San Francisco Bay Area, Homelessness in Seattle, etc.). Also, and sorry for the lengthy reply, the 2020 NFL season (regular season) concluded on January 3, 2021. The park board closed the last officially permitted encampment in Minneapolis on January 7, 2021. Maybe moving the park board action in February 2021 to the aftermath might be more appropriate, as it happened after the last official encampment closed, and that way the article only runs a few days into 2021? Kind regards, Minnemeeples (talk) 01:22, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Collin!: Upon further thought, would a better title be 2020 Minneapolis park encampments? It follows the when-where-what format and it more closely aligns with how the park board characterized the event in their annual report ("...Minneapolis park encampments in 2020" Page 4). Minnemeeples (talk) 14:34, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Minnemeeples! Thanks for the well thought-out responses; I definitely defer to your judgement on this as the main editor of this article. My reasoning for the 20–21 title was that the encampments' closures came in '21 (albeit only a few days in) and that there was a death in one of the encampments this year, which feels important but also didn't occur in '20. That said, I think you're right that the encampments described by this article deserve their own discrete article, outside of a larger Homelessness in Minneapolis article (which would ideally also provide a long-term view of the topic), or even an article for the ongoing current issue of homelessness in the city. I think 2020 Minneapolis park encampments would be a suitable title for this page and would support a move to that if you wanted to do that! I've been considering for a while creating an article on the 2018 Franklin–Hiawatha encampment/Wall of Forgotten Natives, which also feels like its own discrete article. Anyhow, thanks again for all the work on this page! Kindly —Collin^{t c} 20:02, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]