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== Wrong == |
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I hope whoever referenced Hitler as the "Ultimate PWNDER" will stop changing difference pages that mention Hitler. It's just silly, and makes light of a very serious discussiong. Thank you. 606-2-610 |
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== See Also == |
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In the 'see also' section, the first item is 'list of coupled cousins'. That is ridiculous. Of all the many articles relating to Hitler and his deeds, that list is surely not one of the most important; the reader gains nothing by it. Moreover, the nature of his relationship with his cousin is ultimately speculative, as the article on Hitler as well as the article on his cousin state clearly. I cannot edit the article, but surely to God that link should be removed?!? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/41.243.255.61|41.243.255.61]] ([[User talk:41.243.255.61|talk]]) 08:42, August 27, 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->I would like a see also page with information on what hitlers guidelines for being an arian were please. |
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== Place of Birth == |
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Though I have to admit the idea is quite funny, I'm afraid Hitler was not born in "anus", as it says in the article. The German article states that he was born in Braunau am Inn. {{unsigned|84.61.185.146}} |
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== Why the signature under the picture ? == |
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The picture is to nice, Hitler appears like an artist, |
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not like the mass murderer he actually was. |
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What is the reason for the signature ? |
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Still missing an adress for autographes ? |
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It is not Schiller or Goethe, it is the one who |
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lured Germany, the german culture and whole Europe |
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on to destruction within 12 years. [[Special:Contributions/87.187.119.14|87.187.119.14]] ([[User talk:87.187.119.14|talk]]) 14:57, 16 March 2008 (UTC) |
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:Which photo? There are many. Thanks, [[User:SqueakBox|SqueakBox]] 16:03, 16 March 2008 (UTC) |
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The first one [[Special:Contributions/87.187.82.121|87.187.82.121]] ([[User talk:87.187.82.121|talk]]) 06:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC) |
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:Most political figures have their signatures on their articles . See [[George Bush]] and [[Tony Blair]] for instance. You're looking a bit too much into it mayhaps? --[[Special:Contributions/67.171.131.214|67.171.131.214]] ([[User talk:67.171.131.214|talk]]) 19:27, 20 March 2008 (UTC) |
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i hate to break it to you but hitler was an artist before he went into germany...[[User:Klimintine|Klimintine]] ([[User talk:Klimintine|talk]]) 19:43, 11 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Hitler was a demagogue, it should be listed as his main occupation == |
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I just included demagogue in Hitler's occupations and it was removed. What polite justification is proffered for this particular piece of ignoramus activism? [[User:Justinmo|Justin Moore]] ([[User talk:Justinmo|talk]]) 04:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC) |
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It needs referencing, and his main occupation was politician. Thanks, [[User:SqueakBox|SqueakBox]] 04:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC) |
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I've removed this term from the Infobox; "demagogue" is not an occupation. <span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;"> [[User talk:Warren|-/-]] [[User:Warren|Warren]]</span> 00:29, 5 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:Hey, Justin, let's remain civil, shall we? I removed the term initially, because as Warren states, it's not an actual occupation. I don't think that's what he had on his resume :) [[User:Parsecboy|Parsecboy]] ([[User talk:Parsecboy|talk]]) 05:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Religion? == |
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*So he wasn't a Christian, but used it to influence people into seeing his twisted version of Christianity? There are sources that do state that he was a student of the occult, and some that contradict it, but what we can agree to is that Hitler took Darwinian theory of survival of the fittest to it's extreme application. I think we could make it clear that Hitler was not a Christian due to his comments on it in his provate journals. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.197.131.27|24.197.131.27]] ([[User talk:24.197.131.27|talk]]) 03:15, 26 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Reliable Source? --[[Special:Contributions/217.83.54.56|217.83.54.56]] ([[User talk:217.83.54.56|talk]]) 01:19, 28 March 2008 (UTC) |
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::“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” (Hitler, Adolf. Mein Kampf) |
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::There is no doubt Hitler used Christianity for his own gain. [[User:Dale-DCX|Dale-DCX]] ([[User talk:Dale-DCX|talk]]) 22:38, 30 March 2008 (UTC) |
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::Hitler repeatedly said that he was a Christian in public. He also repeatedly criticised Christianity in private. It is not for us to judge whether he was sincere or insincere, or whether his real beliefs, even if we could be sure what they were, counted as "real" Christianity. There is no evidence that he was "a student of the occult". See Steigmann-Gall et al. [[User:Paul Barlow|Paul B]] ([[User talk:Paul Barlow|talk]]) 22:48, 30 March 2008 (UTC) |
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:::It was Himmler who was the occult guy. Hitler thought it was as batty as everything else. From my reading, the only thing he really believed in was himself being better than anyone else and destined to take over the world. --[[User:Lenin and McCarthy|Lenin and McCarthy]] | ([[User talk:Lenin and McCarthy|Complain here]]) 01:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC) |
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And perhaps there should be a link on this talk page to direct discussions like this to [[Talk:Adolf Hitler's religious beliefs]] --[[User:Lenin and McCarthy|Lenin and McCarthy]] | ([[User talk:Lenin and McCarthy|Complain here]]) 01:17, 31 March 2008 (UTC) |
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== jewish blood? == |
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did he have jewish blood? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/80.217.74.240|80.217.74.240]] ([[User talk:80.217.74.240|talk]]) 17:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:See [[Hans Frank]]. [[User:Paul Barlow|Paul B]] ([[User talk:Paul Barlow|talk]]) 17:53, 15 April 2008 (UTC) |
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::This has never been proven to the satisfaction of serious historians of the subject [[User:Stanley011|Stanley011]] ([[User talk:Stanley011|talk]]) 02:28, 17 April 2008 (UTC). |
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== Sexuality == |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#Sexuality |
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Might need slight adjustment. |
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I have noticed that underneath Sexuality on this page it says 'Gaydolf was a homsexual foggot' i think it would be appropriate to remove this if somebody can. [[User:Carf9|Carf9]] ([[User talk:Carf9|talk]]) 19:00, 19 April 2008 (UTC)carf9 |
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:Appears to have been already reverted, so it's all taken care of. Thanks for pointing it out. [[User:Parsecboy|Parsecboy]] ([[User talk:Parsecboy|talk]]) 19:20, 19 April 2008 (UTC) |
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It' either still there, or it's back again. |
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:Well, here's the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adolf_Hitler&diff=206706044&oldid=206706022 diff] of it being reverted, about 4 hours ago, which is the most recent edit. You might want to do a hard reload on your browser to see if it's just not showing the most current version of the page. [[User:Parsecboy|Parsecboy]] ([[User talk:Parsecboy|talk]]) 19:32, 19 April 2008 (UTC) |
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Yeah so, my computer shows it shows the line: "Gaydolf was a homosexual faggot." I think someone should change this. [[User:Cellardoorxx|Cellardoorxx]] ([[User talk:Cellardoorxx|talk]]) 21:03, 19 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:I showed above that it has been fixed, some 7 hours ago, and the article hasn't been edited since. It must be a problem with your browsers. [[User:Parsecboy|Parsecboy]] ([[User talk:Parsecboy|talk]]) 22:02, 19 April 2008 (UTC) |
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::I just [[WP:PURGE|purged the server cache]], let me know if that fixed the problem. [[User:Parsecboy|Parsecboy]] ([[User talk:Parsecboy|talk]]) 22:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC) |
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Hey! The lines I have added are removed. No issues. But how can the 'expunger' do it without giving any reasons? If there were any factual errors, I request them to point them out. |
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-J.V.D. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Stalinwp|Stalinwp]] ([[User talk:Stalinwp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Stalinwp|contribs]]) 08:04, 23 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Hitler and a German Boxer == |
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There's a line in the article saying "Hitler seduced a german boxer once!!!" Whether or not that's true, it's got far too many exclaimation marks, and I'm not exactly sure it's relevant, either... could someone possibly remove it? [[User:Jankles|Jankles]] ([[User talk:Jankles|talk]]) 02:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:It was reverted almost directly after it happened, but was still showing up as the vandalized version for IPs and new users, so I performed a manual server cache purge. Should be back to normal now. [[User:Parsecboy|Parsecboy]] ([[User talk:Parsecboy|talk]]) 02:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC) |
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Hi, added a few lines on Hitler's 'sexuality'. Please comment if I have erred. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Stalinwp|Stalinwp]] ([[User talk:Stalinwp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Stalinwp|contribs]]) 07:07, 23 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Hitler: Universally Condemned? == |
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The article says that "Historical and cultural portrayals of Hitler in the west are universally condemnatory", but is this technically true? Sick as they may be, some Westerners think that Hitler is a hero. [[User:Jankles|Jankles]] ([[User talk:Jankles|talk]]) 02:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC) |
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Well... I'm pretty sure it's safe to assume that most people would condemn Hitler. Similarly, even though some might disagree, the sky is "universally" considered to be blue. |
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[[Special:Contributions/66.68.154.201|66.68.154.201]] ([[User talk:66.68.154.201|talk]]) 23:25, 21 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:It's more about the portrayals than the man himself. Charlie Chaplin, for example, portrayed him as a buffoon in "The Great Dictator". Critical, but maybe not condemnatory, although ridicule can be a powerful tool. I think that "universally", however, is a little strong because it's not susceptible to proof; one counter-example would be enough to destroy that argument. In the same way, the sky is not blue for all people all the time. --'''[[User:Rodhullandemu|<font color="7F007F">'''Rodhullandemu'''</font>]]''' ([[User_talk:Rodhullandemu|Talk]]) 23:35, 21 April 2008 (UTC) |
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::It's already been changed to the bland "mostly". I think this is far to weak. I changed it to "overwhelmingly" to emphasise that Hitler functions as an ''icon'' of evil. [[User:Paul Barlow|Paul B]] ([[User talk:Paul Barlow|talk]]) 23:53, 21 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:::I can't imagine anyone being able to contradict "overwhelmingly". --'''[[User:Rodhullandemu|<font color="7F007F">'''Rodhullandemu'''</font>]]''' ([[User_talk:Rodhullandemu|Talk]]) 23:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== shouldn't this be changed? == |
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set him against a coalition that included the world's largest empire (the British Empire), the world's greatest industrial and financial power (the United States), and the world's largest army (the Soviet Union). |
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Shouldn't that also mention the British Empire was also the largest naval Empire? thanks... <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.165.196.212|99.165.196.212]] ([[User talk:99.165.196.212|talk]]) 17:26, 23 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |