User talk:Yellowcard

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Yellowcard (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I'm having a static IP and this IP is in a range blocked by DeltaQuad because it seems to work as a proxy. However, I'm not using a proxy on purpose and have no chance to edit en.wikipedia.org right now (however, there are no blocks to me on Commons or de.wikipedia where I'm sysop). Please unblock the range or grant me IP block exception. Thanks, Yellowcard (talk) 10:15, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Procedural decline; we can't help you with the possible proxy block until we know more. What message are you seeing when you try to edit? Could you repost it here? (Or, I could put a request in on your behalf for IPBE. — Daniel Case (talk) 16:02, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Seriously? Again, I'm sysop on de.wikipedia with more than 20,000 edtis. Just saying, please notice I'm not abusing any proxies but trying to edit while getting a message that doesn't fit to my situation. And yes, by using this template I tried to get an IPBE as I EXPLICITLY stated in my unblock reveal (please read it before answering. I followed the steps on Wikipedia:IPBE#Used_to_bypass_an_IP_address_range_block that leads me to fill an unblock request. I tried to do so but obviously this just has been rejected). So again, please unblock me. The unblock text I get to see is following (however, as a sysop you know the blocking circumstances, so I'm wondering why you're asking about that). Yellowcard (talk) 00:53, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The IP address that you are currently using has been blocked because the IP range you are editing from is a web host provider. Since your IP acts like a proxy, because it hides your IP address, it has been blocked. To prevent abuse, these IPs may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. If you do not have any other way to edit Wikipedia, you will need to request an IP Block Exemption. If this is the case, please request to be unblocked using the template, and provide a clear reason why you need to use a webhost. If you would prefer to do so in confidentiality, please contact functionaries at functionaries-en@lists.wikimedia.org. Furthermore, your IP address may also be blocked because there are proxies on it. Admins: Before applying IPBE, a checkuser needs to take a look at the account. This can be requested most easily at SPI Quick Checkuser Requests. Unblocking an IP or IP range with this template is highly unrecommended without at least contacting the blocking administrator.

Is it telling you what IP you're editing from? As far as granting IPBE goes, if it were up to me I'd do it in a second. I used to. But late last year I got talked to so I don't do it anymore. I am supposed to refer it to IPBE so a checkuser can throughly vet the account, all the while somnolently chanting "Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy". Daniel Case (talk) 05:20, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's telling me the range my static IP is in. This range consists of 32,768 IP addresses.
I'm using a static IP which means I always have the same IP when working from my home. This IP reveals a lot about me, such as the very exact place I'm living at and the way how I connect to the Internet. Therefore I will not post this IP address (that I of course know) publicly.
I do not understand the whole point. I am blocked because my IP is in a range that includes proxies. Why cannot you give me the IPBE flag? I'm obviously not a vandal having to use a proxy but just a normal user accidently affected by this wide range block.
What is a Checkuser able to say when getting access to my privacy? He can see my static IP, my computer settings and stuff like that. But what will it help to decide if you can grant me the IPBE flag? Yellowcard (talk) 15:21, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I completly understand your unwillingness to reveal your exact IP on-wiki. I also agree with Danial and express my regret that admins are no longer granted the trust to simply grant IPBE to well-established users. I will file a quick request for CU in the interst of getting IPBE granted to this accoint as soon as possible. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:11, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

While I still do not understand why I have to go through Checkuser and I doubt that this is what Checkuser is supposed to be used for (incredible how huge the differences between the German and English Checkuser policies are), I'm okay with that. However, thank you very much. And a question: Who decided that sysops must not grant the IPBE flag any more? I am so confused about this. Yellowcard (talk) 22:15, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Yellowcard (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

see above.

Accept reason:

I read the above, think its ridiculous and have granted you IPBE. You're a trusted user and won't abuse the right. If admins weren't trusted enough to give out the right by the community, then we wouldn't have the technical ability to do so. Sorry you had to go through this trouble, and hope you are still willing to contribute to enwp. Legoktm (talk) 22:31, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Legoktm, it's all right. Thank you very much for the flag. It felt strange to be blocked, it was actually my first time. :-) Cheers Yellowcard (talk) 22:36, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot! Yellowcard (talk) 22:29, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I would have just granted this one right off the bat; while we don't want to automatically trust admins of all Wikipedias (say the language you have never heard of Wikipedia with 2 admins), the German Wikipedia's certainly stable enough so that we can trust their judgment in choosing admins. --Rs chen 7754 22:30, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]