User talk:Fmksmnkn5

Updating timestamp when doing stats updates

Hey, good job on updating the stats for the Bristol City W.F.C. players, really appreciate your effort. Just a small reminder, do update the timestamp in the infobox and the updated template in the career statistics section as well while you're at it. It'll help to inform the other editors whether the latest stats are up to date.

Thanks.

- GNKJ95 (talk) 18:13, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

This still seems to be something you are forgetting to do. Please timestamp your stat updates in both the infobox and career statustics sections. (Hjk1106) 18:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

It's been 2 months and this issue still hasn't been resolved. Is this bordering on WP:DE at this point? CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 19:06, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Career stats

Thanks for creating the stats on Brooke Aspin, however there were a few issues (in case you missed my edit [1] to correct)

• You forgot to add a {{noteslist}} when creating the table, this is why the following error appeared: Cite error: There are <ref group=lower-alpha> tags or {{efn}} templates on this page, but the references will not show without a {{reflist|group=lower-alpha}} template or {{notelist}} template (see the help page)..
• The totals didn't add up; 32 + 12 is not 43. Nor is 35 + 2 + 7. The FA Cup appearances in 2021–22 were also 1 not 2.
• As referenced twice already about timestamps, you did not create a {{updated}} template, which is a basic necessity for collaborating with other editors, as well as helpful for readers to understand if the stats are up to date or not.

Updating stats is much appreciated here, but without doing so in the correct manner and format as everyone else (as well as accurately), it's more of an inconvenience than a benefit. Thanks in advance. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 13:41, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

The correct number of FA Cup appearances is 2. Soccerway only counts FA Cup appearances from when the WSL clubs enter which is at round 4. Brooke played an FA Cup game for Bristol City whilst in the championship at round 3. I know because I was one of her coaches ~ unsigned comment by Fmksmnkn5 17:52, 28 February 2024

Absolute nonsense. Bristol City played one game in the 2020–21 Women's FA Cup, in R4, and Championship sides only enter in R4, not R3, so it's impossible that she had two appearances for City. Your "memory" of this is not only inaccurate, but also WP:OR. This is precisely why original research isn't permitted, because the idea "trust me, I know" isn't verifiable, and is often wrong. Case and point. PS please sign your comment next time, and avoid further disruptive edits. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 00:58, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes in the 2020-21 fa cup that is correct. I am talking about the 2021-22 FA Cup. Championship teams enter in R3 which Bristol CIty did in a game against Lewes that ended 5-0 and Brooke played (link here https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/report-bristol-city-women-5-0-lewes-fc/). They then playeda. 4th round game agaisnt SOuthampton which was lost on penalties. Soccerway does not account for games played in R3. So please aplogise for saying that my memory is 'innacurate' :) Fmksmnkn5 (talk) 14:16, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Sure, I apologise for saying your memory is not inaccurate, which is not the case here. There are simply too many inaccurate edits on WP regarding player statistics, so I made a wrong assumption. Thanks for explaining where this statistic comes from, it's just a shame it took this long for an explanation. As a reminder, the WP:BURDEN is on your to provide these sources on the article page, not me: The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution. The fact that you were right about the statistic does not absolve you from the way you were wrong for engaging in an edit war, quite the contrary.

I've done you a favour by adding the required sources for WP:VERIFIABILITY, but I won't do so again, now that you are aware of your responsibility here. If you have relevant information/updates for a player, please following Wikipedia policy next time, because I assure you that no-one wants to clean up after you again. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 19:00, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Lighten up Fmksmnkn5 (talk) 19:10, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Did you even read Timestamps topic? I would love to lighten up, but as I said, no-one wants to clean up after your half-baked contributions. You could be doing a great job contributing to WP, if it weren't for these minor things. And honestly, I was close to taking this issue to the admin noticeboard for disruptive editing, but was desperate to avoid having a potentially useful contributor temporarily blocked and discouraged. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 19:16, 3 March 2024 (UTC)