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==[[Dragon Con]]==
Hey loser dont delete my page about Steve Souva. he is my friend and i love him very much and i did some stuff with him last night and you deleted my page so your not cool.I was wondering why my recent changes to the [[Dragon*Con]] page were removed? As it HAS been covered on a significant source, [[The Consumerist]], it means that this was an unjustified removal. The Consumerist is in fact, a reliable and significant news source. Maybe you can clarify this some more for me?
[[User:PheobusKilathos|PheobusKilathos]] ([[User talk:PheobusKilathos|talk]]) 20:46, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
:In general, blogs aren't considered [[WP:RS|reliable sources]], though since this one seems to come from Consumer Reports (am I reading that right?), it might be an exception to that. But your cited Consumerist source [http://con.st/100004912 does not exist], and I couldn't find it by [http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=1&limit=20&search=Ryan+Sohmer searching the archive myself], either. In addition to that, I'm not convinced that this is of encyclopedic importance- unless there's more to it than you wrote, it doesn't seem to be significant to the history or importance of Dragon Con. I could, however, be wrong, and please feel free to get consensus at [[Talk:Dragon Con]] that it ought to be in there after all. There are (I am sure) lots of people watching that article who know far more about it than I do. -[[User:FisherQueen|FisherQueen]]<span style="font-size: smaller;"> ([[User talk:FisherQueen|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/FisherQueen|contribs]])</span> 20:53, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
::[http://consumerist.com/2009/12/dragoncon-kicks-looking-for-group-booth-because-dragoncon-was-rude-to-them.html] is the full URL. It seems to be my fault for failing to get the correct short URL from the website. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:PheobusKilathos|PheobusKilathos]] ([[User talk:PheobusKilathos|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PheobusKilathos|contribs]]) 20:57, 20 December 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::Ah! Thanks very much for the corrected link. I'm afraid I still don't think that's an event important enough to warrant inclusion in an encyclopedia article- at an event the size of Dragon Con, this seems to me like a fairly minor disagreement, rather like adding to the article on [[McDonalds]] that they somehow CANNOT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT I HATE PICKLES... sorry, digression, that's totally my own issue. But, like I said, I could be wrong- if the [[WP:CONSENSUS|consensus]] on the talk page agrees with you after discussion, then in it goes. I'm not the Boss of Wikipedia, just a fellow editor disagreeing with you, and that happens all the time around here and is half the fun. -[[User:FisherQueen|FisherQueen]]<span style="font-size: smaller;"> ([[User talk:FisherQueen|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/FisherQueen|contribs]])</span> 21:01, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh, its totally understandable. I hate mustard, so we seem to be in the same boat with [[McDonalds]] on that one. However, I will attempt to get [[WP:CONSENSUS|consensus]] from the users on the TalkPage for [[Dragon*Con]]. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:PheobusKilathos|PheobusKilathos]] ([[User talk:PheobusKilathos|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PheobusKilathos|contribs]]) 21:04, 20 December 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Welcome back ==

{{=)}} [[User:Tim Song|Tim Song]] ([[User talk:Tim Song|talk]]) 23:21, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
:Thank you. -[[User:FisherQueen|FisherQueen]]<span style="font-size: smaller;"> ([[User talk:FisherQueen|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/FisherQueen|contribs]])</span> 23:22, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

FisherQueen, when I was a new user and didn't know how Wikipedia worked I made various mistakes (who didn't?) and you were very helpful in putting me on the right lines. That was several years ago now, but I am still grateful. Actually come to think of it "still" is the wrong word: at the time I was ''not'' grateful, because I didn't understand what you were doing and thought you were being obstructive, but as time went on I came to understand, and remembering your comments contributed to my developing grasp of how Wikipedia functions. Because of this I thought the prospect of your leaving Wikipedia, and more especially of leaving new-user patrolling, was a bad one. Well, "welcome back" is really all that I am saying, but I though you might like to know I have my own reasons for saying it. [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]] ([[User talk:JamesBWatson|talk]]) 15:00, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
:Oh, I knew I'd probably be back. I was just far too pissed off to enjoy the job while that bunch was doing... whatever they thought they were doing. -[[User:FisherQueen|FisherQueen]]<span style="font-size: smaller;"> ([[User talk:FisherQueen|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/FisherQueen|contribs]])</span> 15:03, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
::Yes. I was one of their "victims". Actually, while I too am rather critical of what they did, I don't think they were anything like as bad as you evidently think. Maybe some time I will spend the time writing up my thoughts, and if so maybe you would be interested in reading them. Or maybe you wouldn't. [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]] ([[User talk:JamesBWatson|talk]]) 15:15, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

...for the reminder. Been a bad few days so I should have just closed the laptop! Best wishes for the festive season, take care, [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man|talk]]) 17:12, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
:Pshaw, we're on vacation anyway. If you want to amuse yourself toying with the troll, you're welcome to; I've done it before, when it entertained me. No skin off my nose. -[[User:FisherQueen|FisherQueen]]<span style="font-size: smaller;"> ([[User talk:FisherQueen|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/FisherQueen|contribs]])</span> 17:15, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
::Nah, you're right, I should have packed him in long ago. Thanks anyway! [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man|talk]]) 17:18, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

== Updates to Grupo Modelo ==

Hi, I wish to understand what's wrong with my last update...

The reverted information about Grupo Modelo is wrong: there are not any Cisneros nor gomez in Grupo Modelo's history.
Thats the only change I made in the last update, in fact, I've maked some reference to other wiki article to bring a reliable source, as you can find in the article of María Asunción Arambuluzabala (Grand daughter of Felix aramburuzabala, one of Grupo Modelo's founders)

I understand that Wikipedia is not intended to promote our brands but I think that is really important ensure that the information is accurate and true.

If you know the reliable source of that information about Cisneros and Gómez, please tell me how to find it in order to make the corrections.

Greetings from Grupo Modelo México <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DCI 2010|DCI 2010]] ([[User talk:DCI 2010|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DCI 2010|contribs]]) 20:31, 22 December 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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Thank you for the answer... I must accept that i work at Grupo Modelo but I'm not res I just correct wrong information without change anything else won't create an Conflict of interests.

It is like if I said that wikipedia was created in 1980 by Napoleon... If i find that information in wiki, I'll think that it's real but it isn't...

In this case we find the same situation...

--[[User:DCI 2010|DCI 2010]] ([[User talk:DCI 2010|talk]]) 21:47, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

I just changed that "Alonso Gomez and Federico Cisneros" founded this Group... because the correct information is that it was founded by Pablo Diez and Felix Aramburuzabala... Is it possible to kept that change?
--> Grupo Modelo, was founded in 1925 by a group of businessmen, including Don Pablo Díez Fernández — who became the company's President, CEO and major stockholder — and Felix Aramburuzabala.

thank you

--[[User:DCI 2010|DCI 2010]] ([[User talk:DCI 2010|talk]]) 20:55, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
:A different Wikipedia article isn't a reference; if you have accurate information, that's great, and all you need to do is include a reliable source of that information- like a newspaper article, or a book about the company's history. -[[User:FisherQueen|FisherQueen]]<span style="font-size: smaller;"> ([[User talk:FisherQueen|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/FisherQueen|contribs]])</span> 21:17, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


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That's perfect, I will take note of it to make those changes.

May I use the corporate website as a reliable source or articles written in spanish?

Thank you!!
:Articles written in Spanish are fine, if English sources are not available. The corporate website can be used, but an independent source is preferred. -[[User:FisherQueen|FisherQueen]]<span style="font-size: smaller;"> ([[User talk:FisherQueen|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/FisherQueen|contribs]])</span> 21:48, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

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