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Human body[edit]

@Cwmhiraeth, Chiswick Chap, recalling our previous interactions on past articles, would either of you be interested in trying to bring this vital article to GA class? I can help provide information about anatomy, physiology and disease, but it is such a broad article having a couple of hands would be very appreciated. What do you two think? --Tom (LT) (talk) 12:14, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

It needs quite a bit of work doesn't it? Let's see what Chiswick Chap says. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
Well, Chiswick Chap seems to be on vacation. I will be happy to collaborate on improving "Human body" if you don't mind leaving it till the end of the month. At the moment I am taking part in The West Country Challenge and that is taking up most of my time. It finishes on 28 August, and then I will be free. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:30, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
@Cwmhiraeth sounds good, see you then. --Tom (LT) (talk) 10:40, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I'm back, and happy to help. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:10, 29 August 2016 (UTC)


Hello Tom, Just wanting to voice some concerns over the epithelia series and comments you might have - there seem to be a lot of related pages that could be combined in particular I cannot see the point in having separate pages for each type of cell when this could be covered on the type of epithelium. Thanks --Iztwoz (talk) 15:18, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

@Iztwoz sorry for the delay. Sounds like a great idea. I put a topic up at the project's talk page in case anyone else wants to contribute. --Tom (LT) (talk) 12:40, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Thyroid, pancreas[edit]

While we're here - @Iztwoz interested in collaborating to bring these two to GA? --Tom (LT) (talk) 12:40, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

I live to serve Tom - Yes, gladly. --Iztwoz (talk) 08:50, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
lol! Fantastic! I always enjoy our collaborations. See you soon. --Tom (LT) (talk) 10:43, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Heart[edit]

The article Heart you nominated as a good article has passed Symbol support vote.svg; see Talk:Heart for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jclemens -- Jclemens (talk) 19:41, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Human body, anatomy, etc[edit]

Hi Tom (is that how you like to be addressed?), I'm beginning to wonder if I feel like being involved in the whole area. It seems that editors are entrenched in not wanting a human anatomy article (or a human physiology one); and we just had a weird revert on human body, which I may or may not have not managed to sort out. On the whole I edit best in quiet corners where I can work fairly rationally. If people want the anatomy to be a mess, I'm inclined to leave them to it. But your views on the human body article would be welcome. I think it's now in I had just managed to get it to a decently-cited and accurate state, if rather short (aka minimal, sketchy). It certainly needs a bit more detail before GA. I don't think it would be a great idea to try to build in a comprehensive human anatomy article into it (I think that would be a different structure, and a wholly different focus, suitable for a human anatomy article, with sections on each region of the body -- to align with a modern approach to anatomy, the opposite of the old systems approach), though that is perhaps what those guys want, if they've thought about it at all. What are you personally hoping to do with it? Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:41, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

  • Oh dear. I had a pleasant day today and went home contemplating how to improve the Human body article by inserting some basic anatomical information. But it seems there have been some major reversions. I also like to work in quiet corners although have always enjoyed collaborating in a constructive way. I think I will just keep going on the Human body article and hopefully we can get the nicer looking systems part put back in, if that is the way the consensus-ball swings. --Tom (LT) (talk) 07:38, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
Yes, I was noodling away quietly also. If you think you can swing the ball back to a reasonable position, let me know. I suspect that it's possible - the list formatting and referencing are obviously separate issues which ought to be fine with everybody, see what you can do. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:58, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

With regard to human body/anatomy, some thoughts:

  • As for us regular anatomy editors, all I can say is what CFCF said on the anatomy article: anatomy articles tend to be: excessively fragmented, repetitious, difficult to navigate.
  • 1-2 years back we renovated a whole suite of the basic anatomy articles and found, as CFCF states, that human body and human physiology were not just unloved, but also unvisited - one reason being that there were so many forks. If I was a lay reader, I would search for "Anatomy of the human body" or "Human body" but certainly not the odd(er) sounding "Human anatomy"
  • All anatomy articles have these sections (WP:MEDMOS#ANATOMY) "Structure, function, clinical significance, history". The reason being that it is odd to fragment anatomy and physiology sections without considering them together. So a Human anatomy article would necessarily have sections on anatomy, physiology, clinical significance, history -- and would end up looking very similar to our existing Human body article
  • Lastly, I think enough basic anatomical information can be inserted into our Human body article to make it serve as a useful letterhead to our anatomy suite. In my mind it's very logical that this serves as the head of our anatomy articles which it goes without saying all relate in some way to it.

Hope you can follow my thoughts. But please consider if we end up with a Human anatomy article we really will need some editors to edit it, or it will be as unloved as it was before we merged it into this current article. --Tom (LT) (talk) 07:38, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Go for it. I'm not keen to have dozens of edits randomly reverted by people who haven't taken the time even to look at the changes. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:58, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
Having finished with the West Country Challenge, I observe your discussions above and think I will give this article a miss, instead helping take European hare to FA, the other thing I had postponed contributing to. Animals are less complex than humans! CC will remember how difficult Tree was when I made wholesale changes and a guardian dragon came out of the forest. Some time later, the danger retreated, and we took the article to GA. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:22, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
OK, that's clear then. Tom, if you feel like negotiating with the guardian dragons, maybe something can be salvaged. I'd have thought that 95% of what I did was non-controversial, frankly, and perhaps if it's taken in easy stages it can be sorted out. I'm already working on European hare, among other things. Let me know how things go. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:42, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
@Chiswick Chap things seemed to have settled down. --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:47, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

TFL notification[edit]

Hi, LT. I'm just posting to let you know that Anatomical terms of motion – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for October 10. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 21:41, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

@Giants2008 a great honour. I'll stay by on the day to handle suggestions/complaints/vandalism. --Tom (LT) (talk) 09:34, 19 September 2016 (UTC)