User talk:SantiLak

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June 2016[edit]

Hello, I'm Bagumba. Your recent edit to the page 2016 United States men's Olympic basketball team appears to have added premature information about a reported sports transaction, so it has been removed for now. The transaction is based on anonymous sources and/or awaiting an official announcement. If you believe the transaction has been completed, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Note that the same ESPN page had Bradley Beal on it, who today withdrew. Just wait until Monday.Bagumba (talk) 02:57, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

@Bagumba Here is another source confirming it, Today, not ESPN, which by the way, did not list Bradley Beal on the roster, it listed him as having withdrawn. This isn't some player signing in the free agency or being traded and a reporter tweeting about it, it's seven sources confirming to a RS the names of people on a roster, it's not premature to add it and WP:SPORTSTRANS doesn't really apply in this case. - SantiLak (talk) 03:10, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
Granted USA Today says "seven people with knowledge of the roster told USA TODAY Sports", and I'm sure most if not all of them will be on the roster, but this is a typical sports case where an official announcement will be given, Monday in fact. This is consistent with the WP:RSBREAKING guideline: "This gives journalists time to collect more information and verify claims, and for investigative authorities to make official announcements." Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 03:19, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
@Bagumba I disagree with your application of RS:Breaking in this situation as it would make sense if we were to list players that journalists claimed they confirmed weeks ago, but not when they finalized the roster and a solid RS has 7 sources confirming it to them (Not Bleacher Report). This isn't like the aftermath of let's say, some sort of shooting where they don't have an accurating death count and RS:Breaking can be applied. Despite that, if you really want to wait until Monday for USA basketball to announce that exact lineup, that's fine, and it isn't really worth arguing over our interpretations in order to get you to add it back even though i'm certain that it adds encyclopedic value to the page and doesn't do any harm considering the confirmation by RS. Best wishes. - SantiLak (talk) 03:28, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
While the US Olympic article has interest beyond just the NBA, consensus in WikiProject NBA is to generally wait for the official announcements if one is expected to be forthcoming. Consensus can change. Not sure if you are interested on doing updates for upcoming NBA free agency period, where similar reports based on "sources" will be rampant. If you wish to make things more lenient, you can start a discussion in advance at WT:NBA. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 17:50, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

2016 McDonald's All-American Boys Game images[edit]

I see you are among the leading editors at Malik Monk. Would you consider helping me determine which images to use in the 2016 McDonald's All-American Boys Game by commenting at Talk:2016_McDonald's_All-American_Boys_Game#Image_voting.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:53, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

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Contested Revisions[edit]

Would you please tell why you undid my revision n Inter_Services_Intelligence page?? That was fairly unfair. How could you change updated information? Was not it CORRECT? Was not it RELIABLE? was not it VERIFIABLE??? That was rude and impolite to undid revision which is not in your interests. please describe thanksAKJatt (talk) 05:12, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

@AKJatt: The section you created pushing a certain POV about the ISI, a pro-ISI view, whether that intentional or not. The reversion has nothing to do with any political "interests" you might infer, instead it has to do with my interest in maintaining neutrality in Wikipedia. - SantiLak (talk) 00:05, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Nicknames in lead[edit]

Saw your revert at Ben Simmons to add Ben in quotes after Benjamin with the explanation that it follows MOS. To my knowledge, that was removed from MOS a while ago. See examples of Bill Clinton at MOS:BIRTHNAME or John Edwards at MOS:LEGALNAME. However, it seems the article no longer reflect the MOS change. In light of this, I'm resigned to think there is no real consensus on the handling of "obvious" nicknames. On my end, I'll probably not bother with it anymore on any article. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 08:48, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

After reading both MOS references provided, it seems to me that neither of those actually prohibit names from being written that way in a lede and while I may have been thinking back to a past MOS, I don't see a need to change the formatting for the Ben Simmons article, as the same lede MOS, whether official or not, is used across a plethora of articles where the article title is a person's nickname, including John Edwards and Bill Clinton. Either way, if you don't want to bother with it, that's fine, but thats pretty much my two cents on the issue. - SantiLak (talk) 05:41, 11 August 2016 (UTC)