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::That's one of the weakest, stagnant AfDs I ever saw. I don't agree with the close, the keep arguments have aught to do with policy. This is a fluke (but then MySpace, where almost anyone willing to spend a month or two fulltime spamming friend requests, or paying a stay-at-home a small amount to do so, can gather 100,000-200,000 friends... is a fluke). I guess wait another month or two then AfD it again. Meantime, keep the notability tag up and try a [[WP:PROD]], anything, knocking on wood, throwing salt over your shoulder, kissing someone you like under a mistletoe, whatever, there is always hope. [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale#top|talk]]) 18:06, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
::That's one of the weakest, stagnant AfDs I ever saw. I don't agree with the close, the keep arguments have aught to do with policy. This is a fluke (but then MySpace, where almost anyone willing to spend a month or two fulltime spamming friend requests, or paying a stay-at-home a small amount to do so, can gather 100,000-200,000 friends... is a fluke). I guess wait another month or two then AfD it again. Meantime, keep the notability tag up and try a [[WP:PROD]], anything, knocking on wood, throwing salt over your shoulder, kissing someone you like under a mistletoe, whatever, there is always hope. [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale#top|talk]]) 18:06, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

== Ingrown toenail ==
That is MY research. Not from the link.

You can ban me if you want. You could learn some english too.

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RC NOTE: Someone just provided the name of the female participant in the "founding" Mile High Club anecdote ... referencing the website.

  • This is at least semi-"common knowlege" (note elsewhere in Wikipedia, and see book reference )
  • MY QUESTION: In the case of biographical information (especially like that), shouldn't the name come from some source other than like the one in this case (Mile High Club website)?

--Proofreader77 (talk) 23:15, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since this isn't a WP:BLP worry, the sourcing doesn't need to be as steadfast and thorough. However, I wouldn't put much faith in what a humorous (or cheeky) website says about something like that unless they've given some strong citations themselves. I'd take it out, it could easily be anecdotal and worthless, or a joke name. Gwen Gale (talk) 23:21, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
With regard to that book reference (that I found searching, not currently referenced in article) ... can/should we treat that as a reliable source (fact checking could be lazy, etc:) Proofreader77 (talk) 23:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Since the name is only given in passing, in parenthesis, it's not much of a source. Moreover, a few other websites I've glanced at said that when it happened in 1916, her husband was off fighting World War 1, but the states didn't enter that one until the spring of 1917. Some Americans did enlist in commonwealth armies before then, but not many. Looks unlikelier and unlikelier to me, other than as funny folklore. Moreover, I have a snare with believing nobody had a bash at that until 1916 (although I guess even the Wikipedia article more or less says it's all a joke anyway). Gwen Gale (talk) 23:49, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks. (Clearly, if I'm going to waste our time on trivial matters, the universe demands it be on matters of a silly prurient nature :) Cheers! Proofreader77 (talk) 00:11, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for bringing it up, I've made it into a clean stub. Cheers, Gwen Gale (talk) 17:40, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Delievered by SoxBot II (talk) at 04:51, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gwen

Hi Gwen, Just wanted to request a deleted page, if you have time... Sonia Ahmed for President of miss pakistan world... please advise. --Sonisona 04:51, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

What page? Gwen Gale (talk) 08:41, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Page Sonia Ahmed - remember,, you did the Miss Pakistan World and I had earlier requested you to do the page::Sonia Ahmed:: But you had said that you had no time..

--Sonisona 00:21, 27 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonisona (talkcontribs)

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sonia Ahmed. Unless new sources have shown up showing notability, I don't see much to do here. Gwen Gale (talk) 03:27, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

a word from an admin might help?

User:Viriditas/Medical cannabis lists "SPI"s which might possibly be in violation of some guidelines, especially since he has not apparently reported these accounts, but lists them with the accusation on his own page? I am trying to help "Zombie president" who actually appears, to me, to be a new user, and the accusation by this editor seems unwarranted. Is he supposed to make such a charge on his userpage and not bring it to an admin otherwise? Viriditas has been around a long time to be sure. Merci. Collect (talk) 10:32, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since one doesn't know yet if these are all SPs, it's a bit on the edge to keep a list like that on-wiki, could be taken as a smear. I mean, this is not like a list of straightforward vandal accounts, confirmed socks or the like. However, have you (or yet more helpfully, has Zombie president) asked Viriditas about this? If not, someone should, straight off. If Zombie does the asking, they can ask that their username be rm'd from the list as a personal attack ("I know you're only trying to help the project, but please take my name off the list or request an SPI, thank you very much for your understanding..."). Gwen Gale (talk) 11:35, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Zombie denied it directly to Vir (quite strongly) -- and now has decided to just go away. Seems a bit of a shame, really. Collect (talk) 13:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Without diffs I won't know enough about this to say anything more. Gwen Gale (talk) 03:30, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review for T-Wayne

An editor has asked for a deletion review of T-Wayne. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedy-deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Andrewlp1991 (talk) 21:36, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Joe Brooks update

I recently asked for your opinion of the article about Joe Brooks which you described as "Borderline speedy" and "doesn't meet WP:MUSIC at all though, wouldn't make it through an AfD." with which I concurred. Alas it has made it through an AfD due to a lack of consensus. So... if the requirement for inclusion in Wikipedia is notability and you are in Wikipedia you are, by default, notable? Should the notability template remain on the article until actual notability is established? Lame Name (talk) 17:51, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Naw, as you know, Wikipedia is meant to echo notability, not confer it, there is a blurry line onto which many BLPs do fall but, I still think this one doesn't even waft onto the blurry line.
That's one of the weakest, stagnant AfDs I ever saw. I don't agree with the close, the keep arguments have aught to do with policy. This is a fluke (but then MySpace, where almost anyone willing to spend a month or two fulltime spamming friend requests, or paying a stay-at-home a small amount to do so, can gather 100,000-200,000 friends... is a fluke). I guess wait another month or two then AfD it again. Meantime, keep the notability tag up and try a WP:PROD, anything, knocking on wood, throwing salt over your shoulder, kissing someone you like under a mistletoe, whatever, there is always hope. Gwen Gale (talk) 18:06, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ingrown toenail

That is MY research. Not from the link.

You can ban me if you want. You could learn some english too.