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Etta Place (born circa 1878, date of death unknown) was a companion of the American outlaws Butch Cassidy (real name Robert LeRoy Parker) and the Sundance Kid (Harry Alonzo Longabaugh), both members of the outlaw gang known as the Wild Bunch. Principally the companion of Longabaugh, little is known about her; both her origin and her fate remain shrouded in mystery. Despite Longabaugh and Parker's fame, by the mid-20th century, it was the mysterious vanishing of Place that sparked the most interest.
The Pinkerton Detective Agency described her in 1906 as having, "classic good looks, 27 or 28 years old, 5'4" to 5'5" in height, weighing between 110 lb and 115 lb, with a medium build and brown hair."
- 1 Life with the Sundance Kid
- 2 The mysteries of Etta Place
- 3 Longabaugh's alleged son
- 4 Fact timelines generally accepted by historians
- 5 Media depictions
- 6 See also
- 7 References
- 8 Further reading
- 9 External links
Life with the Sundance Kid
According to a Pinkerton Detective Agency memorandum dated July 29, 1902, she was "said ... to be from Texas", and in another Pinkerton document dated 1906, she is described as being "27 to 28 years old", placing her birth around 1878. This is confirmed by a hospital staff record from Denver, where she received treatment in May 1902, which reports her age as "23 or 24," again putting her birth year around 1878.
Even her real name is a mystery; "Place" was the maiden surname of Longabaugh's mother (Annie Place) and she is recorded in various sources as Mrs. Harry Longabaugh or Mrs. Harry A. Place. In the one instance where she is known to have signed her name, she did so as "Mrs. Ethel Place". Because Longabaugh's mother was a Place, some rumors suggest that she and Longabaugh were first cousins. The Pinkertons called her "Ethel", "Ethal", "Eva" and "Rita" before finally settling on "Etta" for their wanted posters. Her name may have become "Etta" after she moved to South America, where Spanish speakers could not pronounce "Ethel".
In February 1901, Etta Place accompanied Longabaugh to New York City, where at Tiffany's jewelers they purchased a lapel watch and stickpin, and posed for the now-famous DeYoung portrait at a studio in Union Square on Broadway. It is one of only two known images of her. On February 20, 1901, she sailed with him and Parker (who was now posing as "James Ryan," her fictional brother), aboard the British ship Herminius for Buenos Aires, Argentina.
There she settled with the two outlaws on a ranch which they purchased near Cholila in the Chubut Province of west-central Argentina. It comprised a four-room log cabin on the east bank of the Blanco River. Under a new 1884 law, they were granted 15,000 acres (61 km²) of adjacent land to develop, 2,500 of which belonged to Place herself, who has the distinction of being the first woman in Argentina to acquire land under the new act, as land ownership had previously been almost the exclusive preserve of men.
On March 3, 1902, she and Longabaugh returned to New York City on the SS Soldier Prince, probably to visit family and friends in the U.S. On April 2, they registered at a Mrs. Thompson's rooming house in New York City. They toured Coney Island and visited his family (originally from Mont Clare, Pennsylvania, but by then living in Atlantic City, New Jersey). They also possibly traveled to a Dr. Pierce's Invalid Hotel in Buffalo, New York, for unspecified medical treatment. They then traveled west, where again they sought medical treatment, this time in Denver, Colorado. They returned to Buenos Aires from New York on July 10, 1902, aboard the steamer Honorius, posing as stewards. On August 9, she was with Longabaugh at the Hotel Europa in Buenos Aires, and on the 15th she sailed with him aboard the steamer SS Chubut to return to their ranch.
In the summer of 1904, she made another visit with Longabaugh to the U.S., where the Pinkerton Detective Agency traced them to Fort Worth, Texas, and to the St. Louis World Fair, but failed to arrest them before they returned to Argentina. In early 1905, the trio sold the Cholila ranch, as once again the law was beginning to catch up with them. The Pinkerton Agency had known their precise address for some months, but the rainy season prevented their assigned agent, Frank Dimaio, from traveling there and making an arrest. Governor Julio Lezana issued an arrest warrant, but before it could be executed, Sheriff Edward Humphreys, a Welsh Argentine who was friendly with Parker and enamored of Place, tipped them off. The trio fled north to San Carlos de Bariloche, where they embarked on the steamer Condor across Lake Nahuel Huapi and into Chile.
By the end of that year, however, they were again back in Argentina; on December 19, 1904, Place took part, along with Longabaugh, Parker and an unknown male, in the robbery of the Banco de la Nacion in Villa Mercedes, 400 miles west of Buenos Aires. Pursued by armed lawmen, they crossed the Pampas and the Andes and again into Chile.
Place had long been tired of life on the run and deeply lamented the loss of their ranch. At her request, on June 30, 1906, Longabaugh accompanied her from Valparaiso, Chile, to San Francisco, California, where she apparently remained while he returned permanently to South America. There is no evidence that Longabaugh and Place ever saw one another again after that.
The mysteries of Etta Place
Those who had met Place claimed the first thing they noticed about her was that she was strikingly pretty, with a very nice smile, and she was cordial, refined and an excellent shot with a rifle. She was said to have spoken in an educated manner, and she indicated she was originally from the East Coast, although she never revealed an exact location.
Eyewitnesses indicated years afterward that Place was one of only five women known to have ever been allowed into the Wild Bunch hideout at Robbers Roost in southern Utah, the other four having been Will Carver's girlfriend Josie Bassett, who also was involved with Parker for a time; Josie's sister and Parker's longtime girlfriend Ann Bassett; Elzy Lay's girlfriend Maude Davis; and gang member Laura Bullion.
She was speculated to have once married a school teacher, and at least one person claimed Place herself was a teacher who abandoned her husband and two children to be with Longabaugh. The claim that she met the gang while working as a prostitute is also widely believed; some claim that Place was originally Parker's lover, and became involved with Longabaugh later, and that she met both while working in a brothel as a prostitute. Both of those claims are possible, as members of the Wild Bunch gang often alternated girlfriends.
It is possible that she met Parker and/or Longabaugh in the brothel of Madame Fannie Porter in San Antonio, which was frequented by members of the Wild Bunch gang. In fact, through Madame Porter's, several gang members met girlfriends who later traveled with them, including Kid Curry and prostitute Della Moore, and Will Carver and Lillie Davis. Wild Bunch female gang member Laura Bullion is believed to have worked at the brothel from time to time.
It has been suggested that Place's real name was Ethel Bishop, who lived at a similar establishment around the corner from Madame Porter's at 212 Concho Street. On the 1900 Census, Bishop's occupation was given as an unemployed music teacher. She was 23 then, born in West Virginia in September 1876. The Ethel Bishop hypothesis neatly combines the stories that she was a schoolteacher or that she was a prostitute in one person.
Another conjecture is that she was a cattle rustler named Ann Bassett (1878–1956) who knew and operated with the Wild Bunch at the turn of the 20th century. Both Bassett and Place were attractive women, with similar facial features, body frame, and hair color. Bassett was born in 1878, the same year Place was thought to have been born. Dr. Thomas G. Kyle of the Computer Research Group at Los Alamos National Laboratory, who performed many photographic comparisons for government intelligence agencies, conducted a series of tests on photographs of Etta Place and Ann Bassett. Both had the same scar or cowlick at the top of their forehead. Dr. Kyle concluded that there could be no reasonable doubt they were the same person. Historian Doris Karren Burton also investigated the lives of both women and published a book in 1992 claiming they were one and the same.
However, Bassett's and Place's chronologies do not align. Several documents prove that Bassett was in Wyoming during much of the time when Place was in South America. Bassett was arrested and briefly incarcerated in Utah for rustling cattle in 1903, while Place was in South America with Longabaugh and Parker. Bassett also married her first husband in Utah that year, and therefore could not have been in South America during that time.
A once-popular theory held that she was Eunice Gray, who for many years operated a bordello in Fort Worth, Texas, and later ran the Waco Hotel there until her death in a fire in January 1962. Gray once told Delbert Willis of the Fort Worth Press, "I've lived in Fort Worth since 1901. That is except for the time I had to high-tail it out of town. Went to South America for a few years ... until things settled down." Willis conceded that Gray never claimed to be Etta Place; he merely made that connection on his own, given the similarities in their ages, and the period in which Gray said she went to South America coinciding with Place's time there. Gray was described as a beautiful woman, and Willis believed that Place and Gray held a striking resemblance to one another, but there were no known photographs of Gray from that period to compare with Place's. Then, in 2007, amateur genealogist Donna Donnell found Eunice Gray on a 1911 passenger list from Panama. Following that lead, she tracked down Gray's niece, who had two photographs of her: one taken at her high-school graduation circa 1896, and another taken in the 1920s. Comparing those photos to Place's, both agreed that Eunice Gray was definitely not Etta Place.
Yet another theory posits that Place was actually Madaline Wilson, a girl in Fannie Porter's brothel. Sleuther Tony Hays notes that of the five girls in Fannie’s “boarding house," all were born in or around 1878-80. One girl, twenty-two year old Wilson, appeared in the 1900 census records of Bexar County, Texas, immediately beneath Madame Porter's name. Like Porter, Wilson was listed as being of English birth, immigrating to the United States in 1884 at the age of six. Hays theorizes that Wilson changed her name, and that her British accent, tempered by sixteen years in America, might be described as “refined.” All traces of Wilson disappeared after the 1900 census, after Place and Longabaugh left town.
Life after Longabaugh
There is still considerable debate over when Place's relationship with Longabaugh ended. Some claims indicate that Place ended her relationship with Longabaugh and returned to the United States prior to his death. Other claims indicate that the two remained romantically involved, and that she simply tired of life in South America. By 1907, she was known to have been living in San Francisco, but after that, the trail runs cold.
After Longabaugh's death, some believe that she returned to New York City, while other theories indicate she moved back to Texas and started a new life there. A Pinkerton report indicates that a woman matching Place's description was killed in a shootout resulting from a domestic dispute with a man named Mateo Gebhart in Chubut, Argentina, in March 1922. Another report indicates she committed suicide in 1924 in Argentina, while yet another report indicates that she died of natural causes in 1966.
In 1909, a woman matching Place's description asked Frank Aller (US Vice-Consul in Antofagasta, Chile) for assistance in obtaining a death certificate for Longabaugh. No such certificate was issued and the woman's identity was never ascertained.
There have been various additional claims about her life after Longabaugh died. One claim is that she returned to her life as a schoolteacher, living the remainder of her life in Denver, Colorado, while another story claims she lived the remainder of her life teaching in Marion, Oregon. There are also various claims that she returned to prostitution, living out the remainder of her life in Texas, or New York, or California. However, none of these claims has any supporting evidence.
Author Richard Llewellyn claimed that while in Argentina he found indications that Place had moved to Paraguay following the death of Longabaugh, and that she had married a wealthy man. There also were rumors that Etta Place was in fact Edith Mae, wife of famous boxing promoter Tex Rickard, who retired to a ranch in Paraguay shortly after promoting the famous fight between Jack Johnson and Jim Jeffries in 1910.
Author and researcher Larry Pointer, author of the 1977 book In Search of Butch Cassidy, wrote that Place's identity and fate are "one of the most intriguing riddles in western history. Leads develop only to dissolve into ambiguity".
Longabaugh's alleged son
Robert Harvey Longabaugh (February 21, 1901 – December 18, 1972), who claimed to be Harry Longabaugh's son, also claimed that Etta Place was actually Hazel Tyrone, a half-sister of his mother, Annie Marie Thayne. Robert Longabaugh claimed throughout his lifetime that his mother, Thayne, had been involved in a relationship with Harry Longabaugh, and that his mother was a schoolteacher in Marion, Oregon when she became romantically involved with him.
However, Longabaugh's claims are clouded and confusing, with dates that don't match up, as he often cited inconsistent facts and often changed his story. He claimed, for instance, that he was a pallbearer at Butch Cassidy/aka Parker's funeral years after Parker was killed in Bolivia, and that Parker was buried in Spokane, Washington, when it is commonly accepted that Parker and Longabaugh were buried in unmarked graves in the local cemetery in Bolivia.
Researchers have been unable to verify any of his claims. While there is some evidence that his mother once taught school, and also some indications that she was a prostitute, there is no evidence that she had a half-sister named Hazel Tyrone. Researcher Donna Ernst pointed out that Robert Longabaugh was possibly related to Harry Longabaugh, but it was unlikely he was Harry's son, and even less likely that he knew anything whatsoever about Etta Place.
The rest of Robert Longabaugh's stories appear to have been completely fabricated: there is no evidence that Harry Longabaugh was ever in the Oregon area during the timeframe when he allegedly began the affair. There is no mention of Annie Thayne in any reports about the gang from the day, and Pinkerton detectives, who have historically been the best source for the movements of gang members, have nothing indicating a relationship with any woman other than Etta Place after 1899.
Robert Longabaugh died in a fire in Missoula, Montana on December 18, 1972. His death certificate lists his father as being Harry Longabaugh, and his mother as being Annie Marie Thayne. There is no record of his birth certificate. No other documents show a connection to Longabaugh or Place.
Fact timelines generally accepted by historians
- 1899-1900: Place was living in Texas and being courted by Harry A. Longabaugh, aka the Sundance Kid. Some stories claim Place was a housekeeper or possibly a prostitute in Fannie Porter's sporting house during this time.
- December 1900: Place and Longabaugh reportedly marry, with him using the alias of Harry A. Place, shortly after he is photographed in the famous Fort Worth Five photo. However, there are no marriage records to prove this.
- January 1901: Longabaugh and Place visit his family in Mont Clare, Pennsylvania.
- February 1901: Longabaugh and Place visit New York City, and Tiffany's Jewelers.
- February 20, 1901: Longabaugh and Place board the RMS Herminius bound for Buenos Aires, Argentina.
- March 3, 1902: Longabaugh and Place sail on the ship S.S. Soldier Prince from Argentina to New York City. Pinkerton detectives find evidence that Place was homesick and wanting to visit her family, but were unable to identify who her family was.
- April 2, 1902: Longabaugh and Place register at Mrs. Thompson's Boarding House in New York City, and visit members of his family in Atlantic City, New Jersey, then visit Coney Island.
- July 10, 1902: Place and Longabaugh pose as stewards, and sail on the steamer Honorius back to Argentina.
- August 9, 1902: Place registers them at the Hotel Europa in Buenos Aires.
- Early to late 1903: Parker's former lover Ann Bassett marries a rancher by the name of Henry Bernard, and shortly thereafter is arrested for rustling.
- Summer 1904: Place and Longabaugh sail again to New York City, to visit her family. Once again Pinkerton detectives discover she is homesick, but cannot discover the identity of her family.
- May 1, 1905: Place, Longabaugh, and Parker decide to sell their Cholila, Argentina Ranch and leave South America to avoid the law there. Longabaugh and Place sail to San Francisco, where she remains, while he returns to South America.
- 1907: Place is living alone in San Francisco, and there is no evidence she has seen Longabaugh since his departure two years prior.
- July 31, 1909: A woman matching Place's description attempts to obtain a death certificate following Longabaugh's death in Bolivia so that she can settle his estate. She disappears from all historical records after that. With Longabaugh dead, Pinkerton's interest in her location wanes, and her trail goes cold.
- In the film Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Etta Place is depicted as a schoolteacher. Screenwriter William Goldman was suspicious of claims that Place was a prostitute; he believed she was too attractive and vibrant to have worked as a prostitute, a profession that tended to age women prematurely and tax their health. Place was portrayed by Katharine Ross, alongside Paul Newman and Robert Redford in the title roles.
- Elizabeth Montgomery portrayed Etta Place in a highly fictionalized 1974 television movie about her, Mrs. Sundance.
- Katharine Ross reprised her role as Etta Place, joining with Pancho Villa, in a fictional 1976 made-for-television movie, Wanted: The Sundance Woman.
- In the 2004 TV movie The Legend of Butch & Sundance, Rachelle Lefevre plays Etta Place.
- Etta Place was portrayed by Dominque McElligott in the 2011 film Blackthorn.
- Etta Place was the central character in Etta: A Novel by Gerald Kolpan published in 2009 by Ballantine Books.
- Tony Hays (2011-08-14). "The Mysterious Disappearance of Etta Place". criminalelement.com.
- Anne Meadows (2003) Digging Up Butch and Sundance, University of Nebraska Press, p.x
- Who was Etta Place? Accessed 28 December 2010
- Anne Meadows (2003) Digging Up Butch and Sundance, University of Nebraska Press, p.36
- Just Who Was The Outlaw Queen Etta Place? W. Paul Reeve, History Blazer, May 1995. Accessed 18 December 2010
- "The Mystery of Ann Bassett". mentalfloss.com. 2013-06-25.
- Woman's Face Proves She's No Place. The Genealogue. 24 March 2007. Accessed 18 December 2010.
- MacKell, Jan (2009). Red Light Women of the Rocky Mountains University of New Mexico Press, ISBN 0826346103, p. 333.
- Pointer, Larry (1977). "In Search of Butch Cassidy". google.com. University of Oklahoma Press. ISBN 080611455X.
- "Butch Cassidy (1866 - 1908) - Find A Grave Memorial". findagrave.com.
- See the 2001 History Channel documentary Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid: Outlaws Out of Time
- aesgaard41 (15 January 1974). "Mrs. Sundance (TV Movie 1974)". IMDb.
- Wuchak (1 October 1976). "Wanted: The Sundance Woman (TV Movie 1976)". IMDb.
- "Etta by Gerald Kolpan". On My Bookshelf... A journal of the books I read or would like to read. 2009. Retrieved 2013-04-17.
- "Answer Man: Mysterious Etta Place", author Chuck Parsons