Talk:2009–10 Segunda División

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Fixed width on results table columns[edit]

I think that results table looks odd when columns have different widths depending on their name. I fixed this, but my contributions were reverted. 81.37.225.152 (talk) 19:55, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have now adjusted the colums to a fixed width, like you did before. I apologise for reverting your contribution. I just wanted to remove the yellow background for the draws, as it is sufficient with using white, as using yellow would be a bit too much, although it is now being used in other articles. Again I apologise. Qampunen (talk) 21:21, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fastest red card[edit]

Qampunen, you seem to be treating this page as your own. I know in the grand scheme of things the statistic 'Fastest red card' doesn't seem important, but given that this page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%9310_Football_League_Championship#Season_statistics - also has the same record I fail to see why it shouldn't be included. I also tried to add the league season infobox which for some reason you have decided to remove. The fact that the league season hasn't finished is an irrelevance as there are plenty of other league pages, for this season, that have this infobox. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.41.45.131 (talk) 10:10, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fastest red card[edit]

I don't really care if the 2009-10 English second level article has this "fastest red card" statistic. The only reason for which I don't wish to have this statistic is that it is almost impossible to control. If you know a site where the minutes and seconds are counted in Segunda División after someone after coming on, then I wouldn't mind including this statistic (which does not even appear in 2009-10 First Level articles). Just because one article has this statistic does not mean that it needs to be included in the rest of the 2009-10 second level articles. This would also imply to include the fastest yellow card which is just impossible to control. Qampunen (talk) 10:32, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Source[edit]

The source says that it is the fastest expulsion in Betis' history. So? I did not ask for this source, I asked if you knew a web page where the minutes and seconds for every Segunda División match appeared. I can not possibly include this statistic right now, because it is impossible to control. Qampunen (talk) 10:45, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to go to the RFEF website and take a look at the referees match reports ('actas'). BTW, you still haven't explained why you removed the infobox that I had added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.41.45.131 (talk) 10:51, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Source[edit]

The RFEF has the minutes but not the seconds. Look, I do not intend to make this article mine. There is no article who belongs to anybody in this encyclopedia. You don't seem to understand my point. If you have included the red card, then the same would have to be done with the yellow card. It is impossible to control, as no-one counts the seconds throughout the matches in Segunda División. The 2009-10 Coca-Cola Championship has that statistic because it has a web-page which counts the seconds. The 2009-10 Premier League (for example) does not have thsi statistic. Just because the Championship does, does not mean that the Segunda División should include it. By the way, I do not mind including the info-box. Qampunen (talk) 10:58, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Promotion[edit]

Can anyone enlighten me here, I am unsure as to how Levante are promoted, they play Betis next week. If Betis win they have 71 points level with Levante. Currently Levante have a better goal difference but this could easily change with a 2-0 win. If Hércules win they will have 71 points with a better goal difference.
If its not based on goal difference but head to head as La Liga is. Then the following occures (based on Hercules winning say 1-0 and Betis beating Levante 2-0.
Hercules 4-1 Betis (on game points)
Hercules 3-3 Levante (on game points) would go to head to head goal difference - also 3-3. So then to overall goal difference. Hercules finish above Levante.
Earlier in the season... Levante beat Betis 1-0. They lead 3-0 on points. If Betis win next week 1-0 it goes to overall goal difference and Levante are promoted at the expense of Betis. If Betis win 2-0 they are surely promoted at the expense of Levante? Sorry for the drawn out explanation but I cannot see why Levante have been declared promoted. They are not mathematically uncatchable. Xenomorph1984 (talk) 20:12, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is quite simple to explain. Let us look at the head to head between Betis, Hércules and Levante. It is like a league between the three teams:

For Levante: it is 6 points between them (+ 1 or 3 more if they beat Betis) For Hércules: it is 7 points. For Betis: it is 1 point. (They only drew against Hércules). So even if Betis wins, it means they have 4 points overall, whereas Levante would have 6 points. Therefore Levante has promoted. Qampunen (talk) 20:22, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]