Talk:2011 Rainsville tornado

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On 20 May 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved. The result of the discussion was procedural close as wrong venue.

Development and move of this draft.[edit]

After noticing a lack of information despite sufficient notability for a standalone article, I decided to work on this article. I believe I've finished it to the best of my ability and am ready to move it to mainspace. I requested the old redirect page be moved to make room. I'd like you guys' opinions on this article, it's move, and general guidance as you are more experienced than me if possible. @ChessEric @TornadoInformation12 @Tails Wx --Wikiwillz (talk) 19:27, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are already a large number of individual tornado articles, and my guess is that this was a tornado that was deemed to only need a section rather than an actual article. As much as I butt heads with him, USM is right when he says not everything needs to have an article. That being said I think an article could be considered, although much of this article needs a rewrite of one is agreed upon. That would be a TI12 responsibility though. ChessEric 00:40, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I somewhat agree with this, though I’ll give a further explanation tomorrow. Tails Wx 01:15, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For sure, I knew the biggest detest would be from USM, I looked back at old talk messages and actually found he vouched for Rainsville as an article way back. The Rainsville tornado had otherworldly damage and had lots of documentation. In fact, there's more information here than other articles like Smithville and Philadelphia. There's no doubt it meets notability requirements, and it's death toll and damage is one of a spectacle. The only reason it does not currently have an article is just cause of the crowding from all the other spectacles on that day.

Could you expand on rewriting? I tried to cross reference most good rated articles on individual tornadic events, so it shouldn't need integral adjustments Wikiwillz (talk) 02:43, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I might, and maybe ChessEric and TI12 as well, if they want to pitch in on re-writing as well! Though it’s hard to find time on Wikipedia during summer breaks. ;) Tails Wx 19:23, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 20 May 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: procedural close as wrong venue. Drafts should be submitted via AfC using its submission wizard or, if the user thinks no one would contest it at AfC or AfD, technical move requests. The redirect should probably not be deleted because it contains significant edit history—I've tagged it as such. (non-admin closure) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 21:15, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2011 Rainsville, Alabama tornado → ? – Moving draft to mainspace. Existing page is only a redirect. I have a ready-to-move draft to move to this page Wikiwillz (talk) 19:12, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Path length, duration[edit]

@United States Man You're claiming the trivial stats of the tornado are wrong, but I'm not sure where you're getting that information from. NWS Huntsville supports 33.66 mi and 37 min. They also cite that here. Wikiwillz (talk) 16:44, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The tornado went into Georgia buddy. It didn’t just stop at the state line. United States Man (talk) 23:31, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No need to be condescending. I'm asking where you're getting the information from. Even if you do personal research and measure DAT trails by hand, it comes out to 37.03±0.20. Regardless, the official path length is listed as 33.66. I'm completely open to the idea it's longer, but I don't see a reliable source anywhere for that. Wikiwillz (talk) 04:21, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]