Talk:Ali al-Akbar ibn Husayn

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Untitled[edit]

No need for urdu variant. Because he has nothing specific to do with urdu language.

Copyvio[edit]

Text of article was replaced with text from here. I've reverted back. -- Whpq 17:23, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Whpq, how are you. I hope everything is good. Before you say anything else (about the information written in this article), can you please take sometime out of your busy schedule to visit these websites.

And after viewing these websites can you please tell me which site copied its material from another site. Thank You Salman 18:18, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting the page[edit]

1. KazakhPol you cannot revert the page without discussing the matter first on the discussion page. I wrote the article that you reverted and I don’t understand the reason of your action. KazakhPol please don’t not revert a page in future before discussing the matter on the talk page first. Thank You Salman 18:09, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

2. KazakhPol, please indicate for which word(s), sentence(s), or paragraph(s) you need a citation for. I will be more then happy to place them for you. And KazakhPol please bro, next time discuss the matter on the talk page first before you actually make any changes in the article. Thank you Salman 01:47, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

3. Dear wikipedians, KazakhPol, Park3r, and SmackBot, I don’t understand why you guys are reverting the article without talking about the change in the discussion page. If you guys disagree with something in the article then please say it on the talk page, so someone can help you reach your goal. If you guys have any ideas or suggestions to make this article even better sounding, then please don’t hesitate to talk about your ideas and suggestions on the discussion page. I am sorry to revert your edits but you guys can not just revert the article without discussing the matter on the discussion page. Thank You Salman 22:44, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you look carefully at the history of the page, you will see that unlike KazakhPol who apparently reverts the article without fixing the blatant errors therein, I had not removed any of your content (apart from the pointless addition of Urdu text). I have only cleaned up some errors, and added a sources required tag. SmackBot just dated the sources required tag. At the same time, the article is a mess, and needs to be fixed up. Sources need to be cited, and it needs to be written in a NPOV tone. Park3r 09:03, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I really appreciate you Park3r for listening to me. Please indicate in the article, the sentence or paragraph for which you want the citation for. I will be more then happy to get the sources for you. Also please indicate the word(s), sentence(s), or paragraph(s), that you think is not written from a NPOV, and I will be glad to fix it for you. Let’s work together and try our best to fix the article, instead of reverting it back to a smaller article. I will be waiting for your reply. Thank You Salman 19:54, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It reads like a hagiography. For example He was a handsome young man of eighteen. is not objective. If you said According to the Muslim scholar [Insert name of Scholar], he was a handsome young man of eighteen [when he was killed, or whatever] [and then cited your source] it would be better. The sentences in the introduction need cleaning up. How about quotation marks around the Hussein Bin Ali quote? I haven't got time to go through the article, but it's pretty obvious that there is a lot of work that needs to be done. Park3r 15:00, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay Park3r, how about this, I am reverting the article and tell me for which word(s), sentence(s), or paragraph(s) you want citations. I will provide you with citations. I wrote this article and I still have the books with me that I used to write this article, so I am reverting the article so you can help me cite some of the word(s), sentence(s), or paragraph(s). Thank You Salman 19:18, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but that is not acceptable. Paragraphs like the one: Let us pause briefly to remind ourselves of an incident in the seventh Hijrah... don't belong in an encyclopedia (and have nothing to do with the subject of the article). I tried to salvage some of "your" material, but you don't own the article, and I will be undoing your revert. I don't want to become part of the revert war, but I think I'm beginning to understand why it arose. Park3r 21:20, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cool man, I still disagree with you but I think I have no other way than to rewrite the whole article. Later Salman 00:34, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tagging[edit]

What’s up with Park3r? I don’t really understand what Park3r is trying to do. Park3r just keeps on tagging Muslims articles and sys that they are stories. I have given reference(s) and source(s) to each and every single quote I have written on wikipedia.org. I don’t know how to explain him, Park3r just doesn’t understand or doesn’t want to understand. Salman 19:22, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. You both had the time to criticize me, but neither of you had the five minutes it took fix the article's problems. KazakhPol 20:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal[edit]

This article is about the same individual as Ali Akbar ibn Hussain, and therefore only one should exist. I don't know what spelling is better, and I'd prefer someone more knowledgeable with the subject perform the merge.-Andrew c ^[talk] 01:25, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do not believe they are the same person, actually - both are said to be one of the three sons of Husayn Ibn Ali, but both are also mentioned as brothers of each other, and all three brother names apparently contained 'Ali'. Their dates of birth are also different, and the one was a babe when he died while the other was older. I therefore removed the merge request again; I hope I understood they situation correctly. --Leviel 11:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot 16:49, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

adding sources[edit]

I added some sources and fix npov problems of the article.M1nhm (talk) 08:32, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Improve the article[edit]

I improved the article and added more reliable sources. Also, I tried to resolve the issues mentioned. Now we can remove the Confusing tag. M1nhm (talk) 09:33, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have just read the article. The dates of his birth are inconsistent. He is supposed to have been only 18 years old when he died at the Battle of Karbala which took place in October 680 CE. Yet the article states he was born around 652 CE or 654 CE. Is there anyone who has access to reliable sources to sort this out? Chewings72 (talk) 00:57, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]