Talk:Battle of Spilia

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Casualties?[edit]

The entire "Battle of Spilia" seems to be an almost complete fiction. I have checked the Commonwealth War Graves Commission site, which records ALL British and Commonwealth dead since 1914, and it has no trace of over 120 dead on this day or on any other day in Cyprus ever.

This site should be taken down entirely until somebody can come up with some actual evidence, such as the names of at least some of the claimed dead and their units.

Its continued existence protected by a lock on any editing, is an indictment of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:2CC6:C900:8CBF:ECBB:EC71:C1AC (talk) 21:59, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ehh, this article makes some very suspect claims.

A) 700 British troops were sent after a force of 12 - Seems weird but not entirely impossible. B) They took 250 casualties in action, including 127 dead. - Clearly untrue,

a) It was actually 2 people but besides that it was the 2 most important people in the organisation and given that by the end of Gregory Afxentious life the brits had to burn him and a mountain, its not just "not entirely impossible", its very highly probable. b) "Clearly untrue" is not an argument that's just a deflection from reality. In total, at least 417 brits were killed, its not exactly a maths equation to think that 127 probably perished in friendly fire whilst there is fog. Maybe Grivs and Afxentiou killed a few as well without them even realising but the point still stands of 127 dead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cypriot Patriot (talk • contribs) 17:11, 30 September 2020 (UTC) 2.29.51.19 (talk) 23:52, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

Hi @Cypriot Patriot:, you've taken out my changes a few times now. I've done quite a bit of reading into this to find what the sources say and the material from Grivas' memoirs and other sources is demonstrably false. We have all the casualty records for the British Army at this time and there was no loss of life remotely resembling this. There are very good records on troop deployments and casualties. There's very little written due to the minor nature of the skirmish but from what there is the facts are clear. Could you provide me with some reliable sourcing that backs your claims? Many thanks Riled Ignatius (talk) 12:32, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You can't just say "demonstrably false" given that you cant prove it's false whereas the british government lying or misleading is a perfectly valid reason for them to say there were less deaths than there actually were, don't forget, Cyprus was britains biggest failure, doubt the british government want anymore bad press about it than it already has. Grivas had literally no reason to lie, EOKA still beat you either way, the only people that would have more to lose from this situation would be the brits so I don't know what records you're referring to but they're no more reliable than a first-hand account of the events.