Talk:Boris Weisfeiler

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Cleanup etc[edit]

Needs to be cleaned up in general. Also, it's seems to be bias towards the theory that Colonia Dignidad played a direct part in his disappearance. It has never been established that Colonia Dignidad had anything to do with it (although I think it did... but that's not the point). --Al 06:05, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, I made a minor edit out, "(which is unlikely for an experienced outdoorsman)" becasue I think it was POV, and extremely out of place. I will try to do more when I have time, but I agree despite what I believe, and the evidence which tends to support it (that CD has something to do with his disappearance) it is hardly proven. POV needs to be taken out. --NRK 05:16, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are actually documents that say that Boris was picked up by the Chilean military and taken to Colonia Dignidad. Boris was directed towards a cable bridge which the operator prohibited him from using. He was picked up by the military shortly thereafter. He was beaten and taken to Colonia where he was tortured. It is unclear whether he was killed or not. There are still some at the US Embassy and other agencies that believe there is a possibility that he is alive.

Paul Shaefer was arrest in Argentina, deported back to Chile and now faces numerous charges as do others from the Colony.

Also, on 3/8/06, 14 members of Congress sent a letter to Sec. Rice asking that the Weisfeiler case be brought up with the new Chilean President Michelle Bachelet. President Bachelet met with Boris' relatives in 2002 and is somewhat familiar with the case. -- AW 3/8/06

What an extraordinary story! Is this for real? It reads like an Ian Flemming novel: Russian-Jewish mathematician persecuted by Communists escapes to the west and then mysteriously dissappears near a Neo-Nazi Eagles Nest high in the mountains of South-American dictatorship while (ostensibly) on a holiday! Absolutely brilliant! When is the film coming out? If there isn't one, damn, Hollywood moguls need contacting. :)1812ahill (talk) 00:01, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken out some of the references that I think you're objecting to, and linked some of the other items and explained that the point of view promoted is backed by government and official sources. Hopefully this will acheive what we are looking for, but suggestions are welcome.

Chile is alleged...?[edit]

"Chile is alleged to have committed widespread human rights abuses..." the cases are widely documented, so why use the word alleged, how about, "chile committed widespread human rights abuses" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.64.160.210 (talk) 16:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you add an adjective like widespread then you certainly would have to add alleged. Because most of it isn't remotely proven, hence allegations. --197.228.124.105 (talk) 16:51, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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2002 NYT article contains some further details that might be integrated. Also, further inline citations needed.[edit]

"Hints of Cruel Fate for American Lost in Chile" by Larry Rohter, May 19, 2002 has a number of additional details, particularly about "State Department and C.I.A. reports that have recently been declassified and made public as a result of efforts by a nonprofit group tell a complicated story that is vastly different." (Recent as of 2002, that is.) Not sure exactly how best to fit the further details in, particularly as some of the existing WP article text (e.g. the paragraph beginning "According to United States Department of State reports") doesn't use enough inline citations to point out where details are coming from. Perhaps someone can sort this out more. It might be good to give some more sense of the progression of when various info became known. —Undomelin (talk) 17:16, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]