Talk:Chief Garry

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Many of the facts concerning the life of Chief Spokane Garry cannot be confirmed, as there is no evidence. Many of these articles are stories passed down in the North West and some come from biographical sites that try to be as accurate as possible. Whether these are the absolute truth is hard to tell, but this is what we do know. The events concerning the treaties between the Spokanes and the territory of Washington are, however, accurate, as they are documented.

The stories concerning his childhood and his time at the missionary school are the hardest to prove. If anyone has anything to add to this it would be worthwhile to hear their version.

-Wilderzan | Jun 26, 2005

The page hasn’t changed structurally since I first submitted its contents, however, a new section perhaps will be up soon. It's been very exciting to have other enthusiasts edit the page, make changes, and help. This great man will now endure longer with our contributions. I'm no scholar, nor do I have expertise in Native American history let alone North West Native American History. I grew up there, and this is my contribution to the community. Everything I've written was with much help from outside sources.

The only concerns I see are minor grammatical errors, issues that can be resolved easily. I'll continue to make small changes as we go along. I would love to expand on the treaty discussions, having written it in a flurry and with little comprehension at the time, it would do it justice if it was lengthened.

-Wilderzan | Jan 20, 2006

Where is the stuff about biting the other student's ear coming from? I have never heard that story before. LarryCebula (talk) 20:24, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


I made some minor grammatical revisions. Structurally, it seems to serve the purpose of providing a quick biography of Garry Spokane. I added two comments regarding required citations and the author's comment in the footnotes that should probably be addressed. Thanks for the article. -Captchad | 20:00 18 September 2009 (UTC)

What's the procedure to get this article off the copy-edit task list? Captchad (talk) 20:13, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Copyright violation[edit]

I spent the better part of an hour copyediting the article in order to bring it into concordance with the Manual of Style, but afterwards I noticed that most of it is an outright copyright violation - the first paragraph is a word-for-word copyvio from Approximates: Webster's Quotations, Facts and Phrases, page 215, right column, while other paragraphs are word-for-word copies of the text of the Washington State Historical Society biography. That's not allowed on Wikipedia: we can't just copy and paste from another website or source. Being on the Internet or not having a copyright notice doesn't mean it's not under full copyright. I'm completely rewriting the article from scratch as required and would strongly suggest that the editor(s) who copy-pasted those sections read WP:COPYVIO before editing further. --NellieBly (talk) 02:21, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Rewrite is done. The first paragraph might not have been a copyvio - that book might be copying Wikipedia - but it was too long for the lede and contained too much irrelevant trivia. Much of the last half of the article consisted of sentences pulled out of the sources and synthesized into - well, I don't know how to explain it, but if you have a six-sentence section and you pick four sentences from one source and one sentence from another and make a paragraph out of it, it's still a copyvio.
Farewell, sweet Chief, and flights of copyright lawyers sing thee to thy rest. --NellieBly (talk) 04:05, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
One last thing: I believe all the facts about the 1855 meeting are accurate, but please look them over - this is what the Washington State Historical Society says happened, but the books aren't fully available on Google Books so I can't double-check. --NellieBly (talk) 04:10, 11 November 2009 (UTC)