Talk:Class A Wild Trout Waters

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Review: April 3, 2016. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Class A Wild Trout Waters appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 15 December 2015 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Pennsylvania's 500 or so Class A Wild Trout Waters (example pictured) are the "best of the best" streams for angling in Pennsylvania?

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Putting numbers in context[edit]

The DYK hook says that Pennsylvania has 500 or so Class A Wild Trout Waters, and the article states that these streams collectively extend for almost 1,500 miles. That sounds like a lot, but it's difficult to grasp what those numbers without putting them in context. That is, how many streams does Pennsylvania have altogether, and what is the collective length of all those streams? I realize that finding a reference stating the total number of streams in the entire state, let alone their collective length, could be quite difficult. Perhaps there might be a reference that states what percentage of streams in Pennsylvania are Class A Wild Trout Waters?

Otherwise, the article is very well written and sourced, and it's definitely a good thing that it exists, given how many of the Class A Wild Trout Waters have their own articles now. Keep up the good work! AmericanLemming (talk) 04:11, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I didn't notice this earlier. There are more than 64,000 named streams, something which there actually is a reference for, but that figure doesn't count more recently-named streams like Lewis Run (Roaring Brook) and Middle Branch Newport Creek, so the number is probably in the mid to high 60-thousands. I don't even know how to begin counting unnamed streams. But anyway, most are short, so I'd guess several hundred thousand to a few million miles of streams in Pennsylvania. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 13:53, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: MPJ-DK (talk · contribs) 04:47, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I will be picking up the review of this one - both for the Wiki Cup and the GA cup as well. I will be making my review comments over the next couple of days.

Side note, I would love some input on a Featured List candidate, Mexican National Light Heavyweight Championship. I am not asking for Quid pro Quo, but all help is appreciated. MPJ-US 04:47, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I will be picking up the review of this one - both for the Wiki Cup and the GA cup as well. I will be making my review comments over the next couple of days.

Side note, I would love some input on a Featured List candidate, Mexican National Light Heavyweight Championship. I am not asking for Quid pro Quo, but all help is appreciated. MPJ-US 05:18, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA Toolbox[edit]

I like to get this checked out first, I have found issues using this that has led to quick fails so it's important this passes muster.

Peer review tool

WP:LEAD - guidelines suggests 1-2 paragraphs for the lead. This has 3, I would move paragraph up to the first paragraph and combine them.

Done.

I would put one of the four pictures at the top of the article and scatter the other three through out instead of having a gallery at the bottom.

Personally, I think they do better in their own section, since they're not really about any specific aspect of Class A Wild Trout Waters, just general pictures showing what they can look like. I did learn several months ago that galleries aren't inherently forbidden,or even discouraged. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 15:37, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

One thing that would help is a picture by the lead, just something visual to pull people in. How about a trout picture? MPJ-US 15:52, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@MPJ-DK: Found one! --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 17:40, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright violations Tool

It is only indicating some overlapping titles that really cannot be reworded such as "Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission"

Disambiguation links

No issues Y

External links

No issues Y

Well Written[edit]

"The first streams were designated as Class A Wild Trout Waters in 1983." should be reworded - how about something like "The first streams received their Class A Wild Trout Waters designations in 1983."

Done.

"At this time" should be "At the time"

Changed to "At that time".

"heavily-fished" should be "heavily fished"

Done.

"has, due to "'social' concerns", become hesitant to classify streams as Class A Wild Trout Waters." should be reordered "has become hesitant to classify streams as Class A Wild Trout Waters due to "'social' concerns""

Done.

"trout, since" does not need a comma

Done.

"for propagation" should be "for the propagation"

Done.

"stocked with trout, prior" does not need a comma

Done.

"and 62 Class A Wild Trout Waters" i feel like it is missing something?

Fixed.

Sources/verifiable[edit]

Reference 8 needs more info on the book

What more information is needed? There's already the agency that created it, the URL, the title, the date, and the page number. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 15:37, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the Google book link I cannot see any other data that can be added. MPJ-US 02:08, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Broad in coverage[edit]

It covers all aspects of the topic I believe. Y

Neutral[edit]

yes Y

Stable[edit]

No issues Y

Illustrated / Images[edit]

All appropriatly licensed. Y

@Jakec: - review complete. It is a fairly short article, but is just over the size of what i would expect as a minimum. Putting the review on hold for 7 days to allow for updates to be made. MPJ-US 05:18, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@MPJ-DK: Thanks for picking up the review. I'm aware it is solidly on the short side, but I did feel it covered all the details one would expect to find. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 15:37, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Jakec: - you are welcome, I agree it covers the main areas so while it's short it's not too short. MPJ-US 15:52, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Jakec: - Looking at it now, I believe it's a GA - short and sweet I guess. Congratulations. MPJ-US 02:09, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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