Talk:Consul (representative)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
WikiProject International relations  
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject International relations, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of International relations on Wikipedia.
If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks.
 ???  This article has not yet received a rating on the project's quality scale.
 ???  This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject Politics  
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
 ???  This article has not yet received a rating on the project's quality scale.
 ???  This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
 

Consuls in Samoa[edit]

I removed this text —

    • Friedrich Rose (German Consul) (b. 1855 - d. 1922)
    • Ernest George Berkeley Maxse (British Consul) (b. 1863 - d. 1943) - to 23 June 1899, succeeded by a mister Nair (acting British consul)
    • Luther Wood Osborn (U.S. Consul) (b. 1843 - d. 1901)

— from the area about Samoa, as it seemed too detailed for this article (names of various other consuls are not mentioned elsewhere). If anyone feels otherwise, feel free to put them back. :: Salvo (talk) 07:37, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

This is an absolutely unique case, where the 'consular' officials are de facto joint heads of government, and an unparallelled triple condominium; so I put them back Fastifex 11:03, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Is the consulate part of the territory of the country it belongs to like an embassy?[edit]

For some reason the current article seems to adress everything BUT useful information and distinctions...

I wondered that myself, and am not sure if the sentence "Even within another state, a foreign power often has extraterritorial rights over its official representation (such as a consulate)" is meant to mean. Note that this issue is likely to get some attention because of the recent raid of the US military on the Iranian consulate in Iraq.
I found the following in the "Convention on Consular Relations" (linked from the article). My WP skills are not very good, and I would prefer if someone else could put this in the article, or make it more clear.
The language seems slightly weaker than that of the "Convention on Diplomatic Relations"
85.81.63.6 23:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC) NisJorgensen (not logged in)

Original Research[edit]

Unpublished PhD research is original research and cannot be used for reference until published, yes? Mikebar (talk) 18:06, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

As I understand it, yeah, it can only be used as a reference when it is published (I don't know how someone can check something that is not published, anyway?) as per WP:OR,

"Material for which no reliable source can be found is considered original research. The only way you can show that your edit does not come under this category is to produce a reliable published source that contains that same material."

(emphasis mine) --JCrue (talk) 21:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Picture[edit]

Is the picture of Franklin Huddle really appropriate? He doesn't look distinctively to be a consul, to be honest. I don't know, is he supposed to be particularly famous as one? Maybe a picture of a consul... Consuling, as it were, if we need a picture of a person at all... --JCrue (talk) 21:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

  • How would a person "distinctively" look like a person in X position?
  • There needs to be a visual example of a person who serves as a consul general, considering the article is about a position held by a person. Because Huddle served in many countries, I used him as an example of one. If one wants a better known/more famous consul general instead, then he or she can replace the photo with one. WhisperToMe (talk) 05:48, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Merge from Consul general[edit]

The consul general article is particularly weak and short now. Some of its information is already in this article and the rest can be easily transferred. Until somebody can build an appropriate article for the topic, I think it should be merged into this article, perhaps with its own section heading. Thoughts? -- Infoman99 (talk) 18:54, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

List of Consuls by Country[edit]

It would seem appropriate to include in this article a simple list of Consuls and Vice Consuls by name with date(s) of service and assigned location(s). I'm no expert in these matters but there are sources (eg, The Political Graveyard http://politicalgraveyard.com/ ) which could be utilized if someone were so inclined and had the time. JimScott (talk) 18:40, 3 March 2013 (UTC)