Talk:Control (management)

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About the Definition given by Henri Fayol[edit]

The wise reader shall remember that Fayol wrote in French and the meaning of control (verb or noun) is reversed between French and English:

In English, control primary means "domination" and secondary means "verification" [1]
In French, contrôle primary means "verification" and secondary means "domination" [2]

Because of this ambiguity, this is still causing some confusion in management publications.

And consequently the French fr:Contrôle de gestion is an activity much closer to what English-speaking organisations call Cost control and Management Accounting (plus a wee bit of Financial Internal auditing).

-- Silwilhith (talk) 05:49, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

The curious point is that the English and French forms share the same etymology:

Anglo-Norman contreroller, from Medieval Latin contrārotulāre, to check by duplicate register [1]

Which is exactly what fr:Contrôle de gestion is, in some extend, mostly doing.
I am sure my colleagues will all be happy to learn they are exercising a very traditional, truly medieval, job! ;-)

-- Silwilhith (talk) 06:10, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

  • Sure, I think the article could do with mentioning early on the unusual use of the word 'control' here. Btw, why can't 'auditing' be used instead? Malick78 (talk) 19:52, 19 May 2013 (UTC)



A cybernetic diagram of management control would be nice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lbertolotti (talkcontribs) 09:31, February 21, 2013‎

operating system[edit]

In several places in this article the words "operating system" are being used. In one case (under "Implementor") there is a hyperlink to a Wikipedia article of the same name, but not of the same meaning, if I understand correctly. That seems confusing to me. Maybe we can change the words "operating system" to something like "active system" or "system in operation" or "system-in-action" throughout the page? If not can the hyperlink at least be removed? I am new to this, so please tell me if the above is misplaced. Marinus — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:02, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Backwards copyvio[edit]

It appears that an extensive piece of text added to the article by Prokopenya Viktor (present by the last edit he made at the time, but not in edits prior to him - see changelog between his last edit and the edit immediately before his first) has turned up in a book copyrighted three years later. This appears to be a copyvio of the original Wikipedia article. — Sasuke Sarutobi (talk) 01:22, 8 November 2014 (UTC)