Talk:Diarmaid Ferriter

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Any reference for his taking up the professorship of history in UCD? Is he taking Tom Bartlett's old job? 86.44.1.115 (talk) 05:41, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pool[edit]

There are some entertaining but I suspect spurious references to Ferriter's pool career on this page. Any reliable sources? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.191.236.66 (talk) 13:55, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Loaded Language/Puffery[edit]

Former versions of this article are clearly replete with puffery that cuts against Wikipedia's style on biographies of living persons and guidance on loaded language. My attempts to revise this into an acceptable format are continually undone without explanation by IPs, so I want to open this space for comment.

Examples include:

"Ferriter is Ireland's best-known historian"; citing nothing.
"His 2004 book ... contain[ed] many new perspectives on modern Irish history, [and] was considered a landmark publication"; citing 'Book of the Month' in a local library.
"It won in three categories of the 2008 Irish Book Awards,[3] an achievement that remains unmatched."; the awards stand for themselves, not demanding the fluff of 'unmatched achievement'.
"...is considered the definitive history of Irish sexuality in the twentieth century"; citing an Amazon review page.
Needless elaboration on the contents of specific non-notable TV programs he hosted.
"collaborated closely with Emmy award-winning producer Nuala O'Connor".
A paragraph summarizing one of his books, which reads as a blurb rather than contributing anything of value to the article.
"Ferriter played a leading role in the Democracy Matters group"; without citation or explanation of his contribution.
"...it was acclaimed by the Irish Independent as "magisterial", and "giving voice to history's silent souls""; again filling the page with marketable reviews that do not enhance the article but do impinge on its presentation.
A further paragraph on another recent publication, again with all the hallmarks of marketing rather than developing an encyclopedic entry.

Wherever I removed such examples of puffery, I tried to preserve any worthwhile information that still ought to be included in the article. However, some sentences were not only unsourced but clearly existed merely for the sake of peacocking; a high-quality encyclopedic entry for an academic or author does not merely list glowing commentary for a dozen of their publications. If a publication was especially notable, it would be included with respect to whatever makes it notable and would be sourced accordingly. Every academic publication will intend to contribute something to a body of literature, but that does not qualify every academic publication to be marketed on Wikipedia: the bibliography is already extensive in indicating Ferriter's work.

--Scuoise (talk) 16:46, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]