Talk:Dr. Dre/GA1

GA review

Is there really no free image? Never been to a concert or anything like that?
- I've asked the author of this photo if he's got a higher res we could get a close up on. Not an ideal photo for the article but certainly better than that picture of "Mr. No Free Use Photo" Sillyfolkboy (talk)
  - That image is all rights reserved. :S See WP:Upload/Flickr for more info about that (I checked there and found nothing). dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 00:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - I think the article can cope without an image for now. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 20:02, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - True, but a (free, I think) image is an FA requirement. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 09:30, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~Doesn't sound good to start a section with "he" (throughout)~~
- Rephrased. Note: To reach FA status this article will need a prose rewrite, has the age-old wiki problem of reading like: In 1996...After that...Then...In 1997...After this... etc Sillyfolkboy (talk)
~~"Andre and brother Tyree were raised primarily by their father Curtis or grandmother" - needs commas and stuff, sounds awkward for now.~~ What was the grandmother's name?
- Rephrased, still needs grandmother's name.Sillyfolkboy (talk)
~~"Andre would later meet as the rapper Hood Surgeon about 20 years later" - repetition/redundancies~~
- Fixed. I think(?)Sillyfolkboy (talk)
~~"Soon afterwards, he adopted his current moniker, Dr. Dre" - where did that name come from?~~
- Quite obviously clarified, i don't think it needs a cite. Sillyfolkboy (talk)
~~"He frequently skipped school as he continued to explore rap music despite receiving good grades in certain classes on the few days he did attend" - commas please, it's a very hard-to-read sentence...~~
- Rephrased and split in to 2 sentences. Sillyfolkboy (talk)
~~Album titles in section headings need italics~~
- Found no more instances, in titles or article. Sillyfolkboy (talk)
~~"and warnings from the FBI." - woah, that's a big deal. What happened?~~
- Elaborated and cited Sillyfolkboy (talk)
~~"Death Row Records was signing rapper 2Pac and positioning him as their major star, Young left Death Row Records" - repetition...~~
- Fixed Sillyfolkboy (talk)
~~"released at the end of the year," - slightly confused here; which year?~~
- Fixed Sillyfolkboy (talk)
~~Billboard (including in context of Billboard 200) needs italics throughout~~
- Fixed Sillyfolkboy (talk)
~~"Kanye West also praised Dr. Dre" - "also" is weird as he got bagged out in the last sentence...~~
- Fixed Sillyfolkboy (talk)
~~"it was alleged..." - a citation is neeeded~~
- Found citation on Doggystyle article. Sillyfolkboy (talk)
~~"from 1990 to 1996 and in 1991 she gave birth to his son," - doesn't read well, break it up with commas and copyedit~~
- Fixed. Sillyfolkboy (talk)

This biography claims that Jerome was Dre's full brother but died of cot death. Is there a better source for this info?

*How should we refer to Dr. Dre in the article? I took a look at the guidelines [1] and it wasn't much use. I think we should aim for consistency using either: "Dr. Dre", "Young" or "Dre" throughout. Other example articles like Slim Pickens, Hulk Hogan, Ja Rule and Tila Tequila all seem to have this same problem of mixed usage. Is there a precedent?

- It's up to you, as long as you're consistent. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 00:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Changed all to Dr. Dre except for in early life section - referred to as "Young" until he adopted the moniker. (Who made that suggestion? I can't remember) Sillyfolkboy (talk) 20:27, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

*Is it "Romell" or "Romelle"? IMDB states the former and we have a mix of the two in this article.

- IMDB isn't a reliable source...what do others say? dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 00:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

**I'm leaning towards "Andre Romell Young" given the way he got the name (The Romells) and google results favour that too. Though, "Andre Romel Young" is also a close runner up. Perhaps a source from a book/biography would solve it. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 03:13, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- - Changed all instances to "Romelle" as per Ronin Ro Bio. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 20:02, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

*Seeing as images are scant, a small selection of sound samples showing the evolution of Dre's sound, from NWA to 2001, would be welcome.

- Included 30 second samples (Still D.R.E, Fuck Tha Police, Nuthin' But a "G" Thang) uploaded by User:Guerilla In Tha Mist and added rationale. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 20:02, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Addressing the sheer lack of media in this article is a must for passing GA standards. Please strike out when fixed. Comments/questions to my talk page or Dr. Dre talk page please. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 20:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding media: Because there's no free images of Dr. Dre himself available online, we'll just have to deal with it. But the article is well-sourced and written with acceptable prose; that's why I nominated the article. Regarding the middle name: I got the "Romelle" spelling from Ronin Ro's book Dr. Dre: The Biography that's used as a source frequently here.

~~There's still more things I'd like to add, including what I've mentioned in previous section and the 2004 Vibe Awards confrontation.~~ [done on 5/25] --Andrewlp1991 (talk) 04:10, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: Regarding images: Good article criteria states that "[t]he presence of images is not, in itself, a requirement for Good articles. However, if images (including other media) with acceptable copyright status are appropriate and readily available, then some such images should be provided." Item 4 of the criteria itself notes that Good Articles are usually "illustrated, if possible, by images" (emphasis mine)--Andrewlp1991 (talk) 04:23, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And Jerome's cot death was mentioned in Ronin Ro's book. I didn't add it, since this article isn't the Jerome Young article; don't turn the Dr. Dre article into a coatrack for off-topic material (such as trivial family matters) --Andrewlp1991 (talk) 04:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was only asking to clarify that Dre wasn't the only child of his parents. And the article states that jerome was only his half brother which appears untrue. Can someone who knows better than me change that? Sillyfolkboy (talk) 13:10, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Following the addition of media: is this article ready to pass now? Sillyfolkboy (talk) 20:02, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, passing now. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 09:30, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]