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New fire starter Pokemon is a fox[edit]
Look up the official new fire start for generation 6. If Ninetails is notable enough to be mentioned here, Fennekin surely is. Mrmoustache14 (talk) 02:13, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
How exactly is "anime" not part of the "animated" section?[edit]
Countless different varieties of animation are represented in the animation section, there is no reason for "anime" to be its own thing. 63.226.210.58 (talk) 04:38, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Your Asian Symbolism Is Inaccurate[edit]
Someone Wrote: "In Chinese, Japanese, and Korean folklores, foxes (huli jing in China, kitsune in Japan, and kumiho in Korea) are powerful spirits that are known for their highly mischievous and cunning nature, and they often take on the form of female humans to seduce men. In contemporary Chinese, the word "huli jing" is often used to describe a mistress negatively in an extramarital affair. In Shinto of Japan, kitsune sometimes helps people as an errand of their deity, Inari."
That's not accurate, or correct. First off, Japanese have a different version and take on the fox spirits than Chinese, and they can't be lumped together as one symbolic view. Second off, the Japanese have a neutral-to-positive view of the fox, not the negative one described in that paragraph. Third off, Japanese fox folk tales are not about seduction, they are about love, devotion, intelligence, innocence, child-like trickery, playfulness, dependance, etc... Whomever wrote that paragraph did not do any research on foxes in Japanese culture at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.208.167.139 (talk) 13:50, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
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Dogon mythology[edit]
According to Prof Walter Van Beek, the pale fox is not a god to the Dogon people, but rather a messenger from the gods. The idea that the pale fox is a god is reported to have been a mistake made by Marcel Griaule.[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kammerice (talk • contribs) 08:35, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Removal[edit]
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- 110-113 - A Japanese legend:[1]Byakko helped Yamatotakeru
Yamatotakeru is not a fox, and afaict neither is Byakko.
There's a translation of scroll 7 here http://nihonshoki.wikidot.com/scroll-7-keiko-seimu - didn't find any references to this legend. 5.198.10.236 (talk) 20:28, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
- ^ Nihon Shoki Chapter 7
Categories[edit]
Ohnoitsjamie, re your recent revert, "that's already a parent category of the existing cat", I couldn't find the "parent". Can you clarify? Its probably my ignorance, but I find the category system confusing at times. Rwood128 (talk) 00:43, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, I find it confusing as well, and I could be wrong. If you look at Category:Animals_in_popular_culture, you'll see in the Subcategories that there is "Vertibrates in Popular Culture", which can be further expanded to Mammals --> Canines --> Foxes. My understanding is that we don't need to add parent categories of subcategories. You could imagine how unwieldy it would be if we had to backfill parent category trees for every category. OhNoitsJamie Talk 00:54, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
European symbolism lacking[edit]
It could be worth mentioning the influence of "Reynard the fox" on western Europe vision of the fox, who even gave the modern word for fox in french, "renard" while it used to be "goupil" 2001:861:5DD0:5170:F5DB:D14B:C72C:5F00 (talk) 22:17, 29 May 2023 (UTC)