Talk:GEOS (eikaiwa)

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Citations[edit]

The content of this page sounds like an advert and the only verifiable citations are from the company's own materials. Please help by adding independant citations.--Shakujo 02:31, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unsupported POVs have appeared on this page recently. Please add the citations.--Shakujo 06:25, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious External Links[edit]

Some links are dubious, in that they only marginally relate to the article. These need to be verified.--Shakujo 05:51, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted links to dubious sites with no relation to the article.--Paulman 21:09, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Attacks[edit]

We need to be careful how somethings are presented. There have been some edits without citations, which could libel the company. I have edited these where possible and replaced text that has been blanked without explanation or justification.--Shakujo 06:40, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed some of the inaccuracies in the article in as unbiased a way as possible.

1. Student Contracts: Students are able to transfer their contracts to overseas schools, and there is no problem with ending contracts early. Students are also able to terminate contracts as and when they like.

2. Teachers are not required to have a background in education because the requirements laid down by the Japanese government state that people coming to Japan on the Specialist in Humanities and International Relations visa need to have completed a minimum of a bachelor degree, and speak English as a first language. These are not rules created by GEOS.

3. There is no preferential hiring of new teachers based on sales experience. Teachers are hired based on several requirements. If an interviewee has excellent sales experience, but, in the opinion of the hiring officer, it is believed they will not be able to be trained how to teach, they will not be hired.

Paulman 16:22, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Advertisment[edit]

This article reads like an advertisment to work at Geos. Discussion of lesson plans and hiring practices are not encyclopedic.

If all unsourced items are removed from this article there would be nothing left. It is is promotional and not notable. Have a look at Talk:Nova (English school in Japan) for similar discussions.

I did a quick Google search for articels about Geos. So far, all I found was [1] regarding unpaid overtime lawsuit. -- Sparkzilla talk! 02:40, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sparkzilla, I reverted to the version of the page before you butchered it. Usually any major revisions to a page should be made with some kind of discussion. I think this is the norm for most Wikipedia pages. Sure, "Be Bold"...but, don't be "Bloody Minded". Paulman 11:30, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sparkzilla, have a look at this [2]for some guidlines on editing. Paulman 11:36, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry, but you have no sources for most of the information on this page. Read the message at the bottom of the input box: "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable". WP is an encyclopedia, not an ad or how to how to get a job at Geos. -- Sparkzilla talk! 11:55, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

International Expansion[edit]

Added encyclopaedic content regarding GEOS' presence in the international ELT scene. Paulman 03:25, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

External Links[edit]

The GEOS International Schools site, linked to on the WP GEOS (Eikaiwa) page is available in 10 different languages. Should this be labelled after the link? Any thoughts on this? Paulman 03:36, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not necessary to detail that on WP I think. I think you have to be careful, given your positing history, to avoid the appearance of promoting Geos. -- Sparkzilla talk! 05:27, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the advice. Paulman 11:35, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Change of page title[edit]

The page title should be changed because

  • Eikaiwa is a Japanese term not widely understood by English speakers
  • The school is international
  • The school teaches languages other than English

My suggestion is Geos (language school). I am open to other suggestions. -- Sparkzilla talk! 05:27, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GEOS may well be an "international" school. But the Head Offices are in Japanese. Surely the name of the company should be kept as originally intended or trasnliterated? GEOS as well as many other language schools teache languages other than English. The word "Eikaiwa" is used by most of the main schools in Japan because it is originally what they soley did. Companies don't change these names because the term Eikaiwa is synonymous with language education. Should it be changed to "Gaikokukaiwa"? I think that is not really within the remit of even wikipedia to decide. We should should use the formal terms given used by companies, and offer them with trasliterations to uncover their meanings to people who do not speak the language of the country the companies originate. Changing "Eikaiwa" to Langauge School, is akin to changing the page about the French TGV to VFT (Very Fast Train), just because it is listed on the English language version of Wikipedia. Not sure anyone will follow what I mean. I think GEOS (Eikaiwa) should stay as it is. Paulman 11:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think keeping it Eikaiwa is the way to go, and I agree that calling it a 'language school' isn't correct, it's not accurate. Statisticalregression 23:18, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BBC links about language schools[edit]

is there any indication that the language schools noted in the BBC external links are Geos? I didn't see any mention of it....does anyone know more?Statisticalregression 21:06, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can't see any mention. I reckon this is just an attack on GEOS as a company and would suggest the links should be deleted, as they bear no reference to GEOS Schools in the UK. Here is the link to the page for the person who made the edits. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/59.190.126.20 Paulman 11:55, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the links - since there is no mention of Geos in the articles. Maybe Geos schools were part of the story but without any specific mention it's just not proper to keep themStatisticalregression 23:16, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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