Talk:Louis Antoine de Bougainville

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Woman on Bougainville expedition[edit]

It is true that a woman accompanied the Bougainville expedition, but she went disguised as the male valet to the botanist Philibert Commerson, and on her birth certificate her name was spelled "Baret" not "Bare" as Bougainville did in his journals. His journals were copied and published in book form, so naturally the spelling error spread. According to church records, she was born in the Burgundian area of France called Lome on July 27, 1740, so she was 27 when she was masquerading as a young man in Tahiti. While Bougainville returned to France in 1769, Jeanne did not make it back until 1775. Commerson did not live to return. Jeanne had not left his side for 10 years. What is astonishing is that she managed to deceive over 300 French sailors and marines concerning her true gender for almost eighteen months. What is almost as astonishing is that she lived to be 67 years old in an age when short lifespans was the norm. She died peacefully, at home, on August 5, 1807. She left no details of her life, so she took the secrets of her remarkable life with her.

The name was often written Baré. Unfortunately names were not spelt consistently in the 18th century. There is an excellent and fairly recent biography of Jeanne Baret: Dunmore, J. "Monsieur Baret: first woman around the world, 1766-68". Aukland, New Zealand. Heritage Press. 2002. 198 pages. MarkGim (talk) 05:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Birth and death dates[edit]


  • There seems to be doubt about 12 November. Many sites say it was 11 November, or acknowledge the uncertainty. Is there any way to know for sure which it was?

His date of birth is given as 12 November in all the reputable documents I have ever seen. e.g. Dunmore, J. (translator) "The Pacific Journals of Louis-Antoine de Bougainville". London. Hakluyt Society. 2002. Introduction. p.xxiv. MarkGim (talk) 05:47, 23 December 2010 (UTC)


  • This very detailed biography says: “On 20 August 1811 he he fell ill again and ten days later he died”. That would make it the 30th August. But most sites say he died on 31 August. Again, is there any way to be sure? In the meantime, I'm changing it from 20 August to 31 August. -- JackofOz (talk) 04:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

He died on 31 August 1811. MarkGim (talk) 05:47, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Merge from Voyage autour du monde[edit]

The page for the book is 4 years old, four sentences long and hasn't been touched in two years. Unless someone wants to do some significant additions, I suggest we merge that page into "The legend begins" section of this article. Aristophanes68 (talk) 04:22, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Close: No comments on either page after 5 days; almost everything on the source page was already included here, so I did the merge myself. It ended up being maybe one new sentence. Aristophanes68 (talk) 17:52, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

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