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A blueprint for France?

Hello, I am a member of the French Film Task Force. Among other things I have provided a whole lot of wikitables for the filmographies of French stars such as Alain Delon, Jean Marais etc. I have also written a number of articles on French films, occasionally even in French. Most recently I rewrote some general film articles including film director and film producer. Hereby I became aware of Luc Besson's achievements. The whole French industry seems to moan about declining exports. The whole industry? No, one single company doesn't. EuropaCorp that is. EuropaCorp with its self-confident, international approach could be a blueprint for a French resurgence in regards to exports. I mean, did Besson ever complain the Germans were too strong or something? Wasn't Constantin film earlier on so much more successful than EuropaCorp? Whenever I watch Besson's early films I wonder if he is crazy, but hey, maybe that is exactly what it takes to create a miracle. Really, I beseech you to assess the importance of this article again and to help me to brush up the article. Please look into it. N'hesitez pas, s'il vous plaît. NordhornerII (talk)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/de la Mare family[edit]

Dear France experts: This old abandoned Afc submission will shortly be deleted as a stale draft. Is there a reason to keep it? —Anne Delong (talk) 20:57, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

I couldn't find an article for this family on the French-language Wikipedia. A few of the family members are discussed in the fr:Royaume de Nordmøre article, but not much else. Bms4880 (talk) 23:45, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for taking the time to check this out. We do have Delamare, which at least lists notable members of this family. —Anne Delong (talk) 14:13, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Fundamental Laws of the Kingdom of France[edit]

Dear France experts: Here's an old abandoned Afc article that lacks references. However, there is material in the French Wikipedia article that could be added to make it viable. Should it be kept and improved, or deleted as a stale draft? —Anne Delong (talk) 14:08, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

The Hidden Parks of Paris 2014 - Wikipedia Entry[edit]

Hello Wikipedia France,

I would like to see if it would be possible to have a Wikipedia page for my new book, 'The 'Hidden Parks of Paris 2014'?' The book was written in Paris last year and will be published by a Parisian publisher, Éditions L'improviste. I am under the impression from previous submissions from fellow writers that it is quite difficult to have a Wikipedia entry page for a work of art, such as a book, and am wondering how I can go about creating a page for my book and not having it removed from Wikipedia. I would like to also update the Wikipedia pages for the various parks in Paris, including photos that I would upload with full permissions. Please let me know if I can create a Wikipedia page for my book when you have a chance, as I think it would be a good tool for those interested in obtaining further information on the parks of Paris, and to also help in the recognition of my book, which is being published by a small, independent publisher.

My website is

My email is:

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Merci bien, Gregory Ross — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:05, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

  • My recommendation is to wait until your book gets two reviews from publications independent of you and/or your company. Once there are multiple reviews (they can be in any language) post the citation information for the reviews on the WikiProject France talk page so that Wikipedians may use those reviews as sources for the article. This is because Wikipedia articles are required to have multiple secondary sources independent of the subject. WhisperToMe (talk) 13:06, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

French municipal elections, 2014[edit]

This article looks like it needs to be updated to cover the political shift in the elections. Can someone who is familiar with the topic take an attempt at it? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 13:13, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Never mind that article. What about every one of the 36,681 articles on French communes? The infobox on each includes (or should include) the name of the mayor and his/her period of office. This is almost never referenced. In all but a handful of cases, the information is for 2008-2014, so there is a massive updating task to be undertaken here - one hell of a chore. I believe saome time ago I came across an official website which listed mayors and municipal election results, but I can't remember where and have been unable to find an updated version. There is a lot to do here and much too much for one person. Anyone fancy setting up a working group, finding the information and sharing out the task (by department, perhaps) of updating these articles with a reference? Emeraude (talk) 12:46, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
I'm in. I'll see if I can find some lists. I'm not sure if there is a grand list anywhere. Bms4880 (talk) 18:20, 7 May 2014 (UTC)


I am trying to translate some pages from the English Wikipedia to the French Wikipedia but am having trouble identifying communities in the French wikipedia where I can get involved. Do you have any suggestions?

Thank you, ForrestLyle (talk) 18:42, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Explanation of the French elections (1816-1824)[edit]

I found that the articles for the French legislative elections are missing or erroneous.
The elections in France between 1816 and 1824 were somewhat complex. The MPs were replaced by 1/5 each year, so partial elections were held in 1817, 1818, 1819, 1820, 1821 and 1822 (about 17 departments voted at each partial election). In 1820, following the law of the Double Vote, an annual replacement was held as usual in addition of the election of the 172 MPs elected by the wealthiest electors - as scheduled by the law. Consequently, it wasn't general election.
In 1822, two partial elections took place (in May and November), the second one was in fact moved ahead of schedule in order to vote the budget on 18 months.
Therefore no partial election was held in 1823.
In 1824, the Lower House was dissolved and general election was held. Soon after Villèle government passed a law to schedule the election every seven year, without annual replacement.
As I'm new to Wikipedia and not a native speaker, I don't feel confident enough to create the articles for the elections during these years, but I'd be happy to help and check if someone wants to do it (I have the accurate dates and results). Currently, there is only one article on these partial elections.(JoB 35 (talk) 13:12, 15 April 2014 (UTC))

I can help with this. Will we need articles for each election? Bms4880 (talk) 18:47, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. Not sure there is a need to create new articles for all the partial elections, as it was the same legislature from 1816 to 1824. One page with several sections for each partial election would be better imo. It also means the article for the French legislative election, 1820 should be merged with the French legislative election, 1816, but I don't know how to do that. I will add the proper party descriptions and electoral results because they are currently false. The website quoted in source isn't reliable.JoB 35 (talk) 22:43, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
Let's go ahead and create a separate article for each year, since that appears to be convention. Do you have the figures from these elections? Bms4880 (talk) 20:15, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
OK. Here are the dates of the partial elections, with provisional results.

20/09/1817 (63MPs elected): Liberals: 12; Government: 61; Ultras: 0
20/10/1818 (52MPs): Liberals: 20; Government: ?; Ultras: ?
11/09/1819 (52MPs): Liberals: 32; Government: 15; Ultras: 5
04, 05, 11 & 15/11/1820 (223MPs):
01, 04 & 10/10/1821 (86MPs):
09, 14 & 16/05/1822 (88MPs): Left opposition: 32; Government: 56
13, 14 & 20/11/1822 (86MPs): Left opposition:: 7; Government: 79
I will fill the blanks tomorrow, and also explain the changes among the parties. If you create the pages, it would be easier for me to directly add the results there. Can I quote the newspapers of the time for the results? They are digitalized so I can add the links (for example here) JoB 35 (talk) 00:33, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

There is apparently a typo in the 1817 figures. Were 73 MPs elected, or did the Government faction win 51? Bms4880 (talk) 14:55, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Yes, you're right. It's 51 MPs elected, including: Liberals: 12; Government: 39; Ultras: 0. However, I will probably make some slight corrections as it's difficult to have exact figures.JoB 35 (talk) 15:23, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Does the "Government" faction equate to "moderate royalist"? Bms4880 (talk) 15:48, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
In some ways (during the year 1815-20 and 1828-29). By "Government", I mean anyone not in opposition; people of the time said "Ministériels", but I couldn't find a translation. "Parties" were still primitive during the Restoration and there were a lot of changes; it was more stable later. The Liberals (or Far-Left) were constantly in the Left Opposition, joined by the Doctrinaires (or "Centre-Left", or "moderate royalists") between 1820-7 and 1829-30 (Villèle and Polignac ministries). The Centre-Right, composed of moderate royalists, always supported the Government, and allied either to the Centre-Left between 1816-20 and 1828-9, or to the Ultras (or Far-right) between 1820-7 and 1829-30. Hope it's clear.JoB 35 (talk) 16:20, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

I've created French legislative election, 1817. I included a source, but it'll need the newspaper source as well. We'll need to clarify the pro-government and opposition situation of the contesting factions. Bms4880 (talk) 17:17, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I added a description of the political situation. I think we need a second column in the table to show the new weight of the parties in the Chamber after the partial election.JoB 35 (talk) 17:55, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Do you have the numbers for the new weight? We can create another column. Bms4880 (talk) 18:06, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
For the moment, I'm calculating the results between 1817-1821, but I will post them as soon as I have them. JoB 35 (talk) 18:15, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Here are the results for 1819. 53 seats: Liberals: 35; Government: 13; Ultras: 5. Two newspaper reports here and here. JoB 35 (talk) 19:51, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I've created French legislative election, 1819, with the two newspaper sources. We still the newspaper source for the 1817 article. Bms4880 (talk) 21:38, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. Here is the Newspaper for 1817.JoB 35 (talk) 22:59, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Expand new Pinard (wine) (any French-speakers or WWI fans?)[edit]

bringing over from Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Food_and_drink#Expand_new_Pinard_.28wine.29_.28any_French-speakers_or_WWI_fans.3F.29

I ran across the term pinard somewhere years ago and put it on my WP "to do" list. Apparently it's a French military term for wine, kind of akin in sentiment to "grog". A previous version was deleted in 2009 per WP:NOTDICT, but I think there's enough cultural context around pinard as a concept, not just a word, to justify an article (and seems to quite agree). I've put together a pretty basic version just based on English sources on GoogleBooks and an image from fr:Pinard (vin). If anyone is keen on this and speaks French, I'm sure much more could be said, though the version as it stands is just too flowery/sentimental/inside-jokey to pass WP:TONE standards. Just thought folks might find this an interesting article about wine culture. MatthewVanitas (talk) 20:00, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Indeed your suggestion is welcomed, as pinard is a valid and notable term in itself. I'll see what I can add, although I do warn you my time is limited towards articles such as this. Cheers, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 16:35, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/de Saboulin Bollena[edit]

Dear France experts: Here's an old Afc submission which will soon be deleted as a stale draft. Is there any information and reference material in it which should be moved to the existing article at De Saboulin Bollena ? If so, is there someone who is familiar with this topic and could do this? —Anne Delong (talk) 20:55, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Artelia[edit]

Is this company notable or is this submission just someone looking for advertising for his company? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 00:28, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 16/05[edit]

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Marina Affair. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 16:32, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been featured[edit]

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How do you find archives of news articles of French newspapers?[edit]

How do you find archives of news articles of French newspapers? I want to check archives of Le Monde, Libération, etc.

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 12:04, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

I'm afraid they don't exist... Le Monde has an online archive service, but you have to pay. Only newspapers issued before 1940 are available online for free - through the Gallica portal. You can still use their search feature, but with limited results.JoB 35 (talk) 22:10, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Mr Leon's Paris - children's book[edit]

Salut! For anyone here more conversant than I am with articles about books who feels like improving the content at Mr Leon's Paris, please go ahead. Merci. N.B. I don't have the book myself, was considering purchasing it but when seeing the expected age group changed my mind. -- Trevj (talk · contribs) 13:03, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014[edit]

You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride 2014, a campaign to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and its sister projects. The campaign will take place throughout the month of June, culminating with a multinational edit-a-thon on June 21. Meetups are being held in some cities, or you can participate remotely. All constructive edits are welcome in order to contribute to Wikipedia's mission of providing quality, accurate information. Articles within Category:LGBT in Europe may be of particular interest. You can also upload LGBT-related images by participating in Wikimedia Commons' LGBT-related photo challenge. You are encouraged to share the results of your work here. Happy editing! --Another Believer (Talk) 18:53, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject France At Wikimania 2014[edit]

Hi all,

My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.

One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.

This is particularly aimed at highlighting less discoverable but successful projects, e.g:

• Active Wikiprojects: Wikiproject Medicine, WikiProject Video Games, Wikiproject Film

• Tech projects/Tools, which may be looking for either users or developers.

• Less known major projects: Wikinews, Wikidata, Wikivoyage, etc.

• Wiki Loves Parliaments, Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves ____

• Wikimedia thematic organisations, Wikiwomen’s Collaborative, The Signpost

For more information or to sign up for one for your project, go to:
Project leaflets
Adikhajuria (talk) 17:14, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Living people on EN wiki who are dead on other wikis[edit]

The following individuals who are in the scope of this project are showing to be alive on the English wiki, but deceased on another language wiki:

  1. Jacques Soisson: de:Gestorben 2012 / fr:Décès en 2012
  2. Jean Laroche: fr:Décès en 2010

Please help to find reliable sources to confirm if these individuals are alive or dead, or correct any mis-categorization on the relevant foreign-language article(s). Please see WP:LIVINGDEAD for more info and raise any issues on the talkpage. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 18:10, 14 June 2014 (UTC)


With reference to the attendance in the World cup Foot-ball Finals, I would like to have a clarification. While the attendance is in thousands in all cases, it has crossed 100,000 when it was held in Brazil in 1950 (174,000) and in Mexico in 1970 (107,412). Is the statistics true? J.Chandradas, 3, Professors Colony, East Tambaram, Chennai - 600 059, India. § — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:49, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Incorrect Information and Image?[edit]

I believe there are a couple of errors in this article -,_Charente

It states that St Romain is north-east of Aubeterre, but it is almost due west - is there another St Romain in 16347 code?

I think the image of the town hall is also incorrect - it didn't look like that when I was there in May (again, do I have the right commune?) - I'm sorry, I didn't take a photo.

The population figure seems rather high.

If you check Google Earth, you will see what I mean.

I hope this is helpful. (talk) 13:37, 21 June 2014 (UTC) Matt.

It seems that the place of the picture is not the town hall any more. The new one is close to the church. Some corrections done according to your comments. Thanks, Matt. — M-le-mot-dit (T) 14:00, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Kleargear AFD deletion discussion notice[edit]

  1. Kleargear
  2. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kleargear (2nd nomination)

Discussion about whether or not to delete article for Kleargear, discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kleargear (2nd nomination). — Cirt (talk) 20:32, 4 July 2014 (UTC)