Talk:Lyman Beecher

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What were the "new measures"?[edit]

The article states, 'Beecher stoked controversy by advocating "new measures" of evangelism that ran counter to traditional Calvinism understanding. These new measures were an outworking of the practice of evangelist Charles Finney,...'

One can look up Finney in the link provided (at his name, in the article), and find out what Finney's practices were, but that still doesn't make clear what "outworking" thereof Beecher was advocating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.28.164.208 (talk) 21:52, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Notes[edit]

So, what was Lyman teaching, it really only puts his stance on the religions already established...wasn't he kinda preaching is own new thinkings?

This doesn't really make sense. It says he was an abolitionist at the top, but later it says that he view abolitionism as "radical" and refused to teach african americans.

"After the slavery controversy, Beecher and his co-worker Stowe remained and tried to revive the prosperity of the Seminary, but at last abandoned it. The great project of their lives was defeated, and they returned to the East..." This is incorrect. While Beecher and Stowe did eventually return to the East, Stowe did so to take another teaching job, and Beecher did so because his health declined so much he could no longer teach. According to the eulogy given at Lane Seminary upon Beecher's death entitled, "The Life and Services of Rev. Lyman Beecher, D.D. As President and Professor of Theology in Lane Seminary. A Commemorative Discourse, Delivered at the Anniversary, May 7th, 1863" delivered by Rev. D. Howe Allen, D.D., professor of systematic theology at Lane, Beecher in fact did save the seminary, and it was thriving when he resigned (p.10). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.201.18.49 (talk) 07:33, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Speeches on intemperance[edit]

There is no information on Beecher's 6 very famous speeches about the evils of intemperance. TarTar Sauce 18:08, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

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Beecher and antislavery[edit]

The article states, "Beecher also opposed the 'radical' position of abolition and refused to offer classes to African-Americans.". This statement is fundamentally incorrect. According to American historian Daniel Walker Howe in his book "What Hath God Wrought", "Lane's president was the antislavery Lyman Beecher, who had admitted a former slave as a Lane student."(174) Firearadia (talk) 18:07, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

The above person is correct. Just look up the Lane Seminary roster for the first few years of operation. There was a former slave enrolled as a student. He is also mentioned in a speech entitled "Great Debate at Lane Seminary," given by student Henry Brewster Stanton, on March 10, 1834. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.201.18.49 (talk) 07:24, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Lofty antique language[edit]

Finding his salary wholly inadequate to support his increasing family, he resigned the charge at East Hampton,…

This article reads like an extract from a 1911 encyclopedia, not like a modern encyclopedia entry. Many readers in Wikipedia's global audience will wonder what "charge" means in the above passage. I've already rewritten the first passage where the term "intemperance" appears. I hope other editors will be bold in updating the language of this article. It should not read as if Lyman Beecher had written it himself! — ob C. alias ALAROB 15:32, 1 March 2014 (UTC)