Talk:Mingulay Boat Song

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The article on "Mingulay" points out that the song was "composed in 1938, after the abandonment of Mingulay." Clearly, then, the song was not sung by Scottish fishermen as they returned home to Mingulay. Can someone correct this?

Also, as long as we're being picky, fishermen returning from the open Atlantic would not have crossed the Minch, which is the straight separating the Outher Hebrides from mainland Scotland.148.85.1.102 15:44, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i don't think they would have lived on Mingulay, it would just be their reference point on the horizon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.199.181.173 (talk) 21:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Creag Guanach[edit]

It would be interesting to find out more about the melody, Creag Guanach, especially if it is substantially older (is it?) Hpa (talk) 19:06, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sound file doesn't match[edit]

The sound file Mingulay_Boat_Song.ogg doesn't match the tune I've heard. The tune I've heard is easily found in various versions on YouTube. Oaklandguy (talk) 08:58, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OR?[edit]

Moved from talk, unreferenced:

(this rendition was remembered by a boy on a S.A.L.T.S (Sail and Life Training Society) voyage on the Pacific Swift, out of Victoria, British Columbia, Canada, before the turn of the twentieth century. This boy (now, unfortunately grown up,) is available for rendition, to quantify these lyrics, upon request, and possibly argument.

Composed or Collected[edit]

Many shantys were passed down and mutated in oral tradition before being written up. So was it actually composed in 1938, or just collected ? -- Andy H 80.6.176.161 (talk) 22:18, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A bit of both. That's the earliest known printed version of the melody, which is older than that. The lyrics were claimed by the editor of that songbook, so would date to that time. Ibadibam (talk) 01:19, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Songs of the Isles source[edit]

The quote attributed to Songs of the Isles has never been supported by a full citation. Is there any chance that this is the intended source? Anybody have a copy to verify? Ibadibam (talk) 19:51, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

– I forgot to update this when I did so, but I located a PDF of the correct work and added it a while back. Ibadibam (talk) 01:16, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Folk lyrics[edit]

When 108.49.88.187 changed the lyrics, they changed the wrong ones – the altered lyrics are the original by Roberton – but a printed source as given by the IP for the later folk lyrics is potentially valuable (the source is: "Mingulay Boat Song". Sing Out!. 19 (4): 21. 1969. {{cite journal|title=Mingulay Boat Song|page=21|work=[[Sing Out!]]|volume=19|number=4|year=1969}}). The change would need to be made to Mingulay Boat Song § Alternative lyrics, and they would need to be changed to be identical to those in Sing Out!. Anonymous user, if you're still out there, you are welcome to re-add the full SO! lyrics to that section. Ibadibam (talk) 01:04, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]