Talk:Newcastleton

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Proposed article merge[edit]

I cannot find another Castleton (just nearby Castleton Muir and Old Castleton) and suspect that both articles refer to the same village. Please correct me if wrong. Finavon (talk) 13:25, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't merge just yet, I need to get the OS map back from the library first. Renata (talk) 11:41, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The farm complex at Castleton was named as such on the 1960s Ordnance Survey maps. The latest maps, however, show the farm as Old Castleton. The open moorland to the south is still (plain) Castleton Muir, although surrounded on two sides by Newcastleton Forest. Castleton (unprefixed) was also the name of the large parish that contained both Old and New Castleton (and much more besides) until local government reform in Scotland in 1975. (Old) Castleton village took its name from Liddel Castle, now totally demolished though a large mound survives, which was replaced by Hermitage Castle, 6km to the north. As mentioned in the Newcastleton article the village was replaced at the end of the 18th century by the Duke of Sutherland's (?) new town at Copshaw Holm, alias Newcastleton. Old Castleton and Liddel Castle have a history up to the 1790s that might form the basis of an article separate from that of Newcastleton but today (unrefixed) Castleton is not a village, nor even a hamlet.Jamjarface (talk) 19:34, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops, memory failure again! For Duke of Sutherland above, read Duke of Buccleuch. There is a one-line article on Liddel Castle on WP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.78.51 (talk) 19:42, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

However, Castleton remains a civil parish, which continue to exist, even though they have little function other than for statistical purposes and as identifiers in some legislation. WikiProject UK Geography aims to have an article for every civil parish in the United Kingdom, and so merger would be inappropriate. Skinsmoke (talk) 09:36, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Town origin validation sought[edit]

On 24 May 2006, an unnamed user, without a corresponding citation, added a third sentence to the stub article of the time: 'Newcastleton was built as a result of the land clearances in the 1790s when people were forced to move from Old Castleton village'.

In the talk note above, it says 'the village was replaced at the end of the 18th century by the Duke of Sutherland'. But SUTHERLAND was about Highland Clearances, not 'Lowland' clearances.

One webpage states: 'Newcastleton built in 1793 by the Duke of Buccleuch to capitalise on the growing textile markets, it has conservation status'.

Can it be confirmed whether (i) the replacement was due to land clearances, or (ii) a planned village of artisans by a duke (Duke of Buccleuch?)? Q8682 (talk) 12:33, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]