Talk:The Mysteries of Udolpho

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Goal: Novel Article Style as defined by WP:NOVEL Sciribe 18:28, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who is Count Duvarney?[edit]

If he's important enough that Valancourt is twice noted to be his brother, perhaps someone should explain who he is? 71.174.133.153 16:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're probably right; if I could remember the faintest thing about him I would add it. I suspect he is only mentioned to show that Valancourt is a member of the nobility. -Sketchmoose (talk) 22:34, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Austen's use of gothic convention[edit]

I will write more when I can, but... Austen's manipulation of gothic convention in Northanger Abbey is more subtle than "mocking" parody. The climax of the novel comes not when Henry disabuses Catherine of the gothic fantasies she constructs around the Tilney family and Northanger Abbey, but when the General his father throws her out of the Abbey, without explanation or apology, into bitter weather to make a potentially hazardous and unprotected journey home alone. This, unbenownst to Catherine, because she no longer fits into his selfish schemes- nothing is more gothic than this. Thus Austen, having had Henry reject the idea that Catherine's appetite for the gothic might in any way prepare her for the world, actually affirms that a degree of imagination and paranoia are useful social attributes, and that novel reading is one good way to acquire them. Richard Shore 16:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This may be so, but unless you can cite published authors advancing this criticism, it counts as original research and is not appropriate for inclusion. (Though since this is over two years old, I doubt this warning was actually necessary.) -Sketchmoose (talk) 03:31, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, it occurs to me just now that, even if it could be found in a reputable, published work, it would be far more appropriate in the Northanger Abbey article anyway. -Sketchmoose (talk) 22:34, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

importance of this work[edit]

Hello, the article states that, "The Mysteries of Udolpho is important because frightening and apparently supernatural events are ultimately given rational explanations by Radcliffe". I've seen this phrase ever since this article was a stub, and puzzled over its meaning. Is this meant to say that this novel is important because it manages to combine the sometimes extreme emotions of (pre)Romanticism with the rationalist thought of the Age of Enlightenment? Some more explanation about this would be helpful, both for me and for the article. --Kyoko 19:07, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You are right, but since that sentence was unreferenced, I deleted it in accordance with WP:NOR. -Sketchmoose (talk) 22:34, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New Sources for The Mysteries of Udolpho[edit]

Radcliffe, Ann. The Mysteries of Udolpho. Devoted Publishing, 2016. https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=_D68DQAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA4&dq=the+mysteries+of+udolpho&ots=ACn9_IL0sB&sig=Zmc-zh-3xm9UF_Si1WpNAvZPnC4#v=onepage&q=the%20mysteries%20of%20udolpho&f=false

Norton, Rictor. Mistress of Udolpho: The Life of Ann Radcliffe. Leicester University Press, 1999. https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=OrivAwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP6&dq=ann+radcliffe+biography&ots=BtNHNW3JU4&sig=AavDvHVNzcNQCEOR40Ed3dgD8zc#v=onepage&q=ann%20radcliffe%20biography&f=false

POOVEY, MARY. “Ideology and ‘The Mysteries of Udolpho.’” Criticism, vol. 21, no. 4, 1979, pp. 307–330. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/23102716. http://www.jstor.org/stable/23102716?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Aeb 199125 (talk) 03:02, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Revision Outline[edit]

The changes and revisions that I feel are necessary to the Mysteries of Uldopho page are as follows:

1) Background on Ann Radcliffe 2) Any necessary edits within the plot section of the book 3) Any necessary edits within the character section 4) publication of the book and critical reception 5) Any film/play adaptations 6) Add extra external links

Aeb 199125 (talk) 03:09, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]