Talk:Thomas Williams (Congregational minister)

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Birthdate[edit]

I have removed the following paragraph from the lead:

From baptismal records he appears to be the son of William and Mary Williams of Talgarth, Breconshire, Wales and was baptised on 29 June 1725 in the non-conformist chapel of Tredustan, near Talgarth.^[1] William Williams was connected to the non-conformist Vavasor Griffiths’s Academy which operated from 1735 to 1741.^[1]^[2] In 1736 or 1737 Griffiths moved his home to Chancefield near Talgarth; he retaining his pastorate, and was teaching at the Carmarthen Academy, Llwyn-llwyd as well as at Chancefield.^[3] At this time the Welsh Methodist revival influenced the older nonconformist churches, or dissenters — the Baptists and the Congregationalists — who in turn also experienced growth and renewal. As a result, by the middle of the nineteenth century, Wales was a predominantly a nonconformist country.^[4]

References

^ ^a ^b Daniels, Eilir (2010). "Research Report: Rev. Thomas Williams, Gosport, Hampshire (1724/25-1770)". Retrieved 21 December 2013.
^ "Griffiths, Vavasor (?-1741)". Dr Williams’s Centre for Dissenting Studies. 2011. Retrieved 23 December 2013.
^ "Griffiths, Vavasor (d. 1741)". Welsh Biography Online. Retrieved 23 December 2013.
^ Davies, Gwyn (2002). A light in the land: Christianity in Wales, 200–2000. Bridgend: Bryntirion Press. ISBN 1-85049-181-X. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |chapterurl= (help)

Of those four references, only the first one mentions Williams, and that one by now carries an explicit disclaimer that Thomas Williams' birthdate and parentage are not confirmed since there's a likelihood that the Thomas Williams described in our article and the one born to William Williams in 1725 are one and the same, but no definitive link. Huon (talk) 15:20, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[YWA-1] Daniels, Eilir (2010). "Research Report: Rev. Thomas Williams, Gosport, Hampshire (1724/25-1770)". Retrieved 21 December 2013.

[DacaVG-2] "Griffiths, Vavasor (?-1741)". Dr Williams’s Centre for Dissenting Studies. 2011. Retrieved 23 December 2013.

[WBO-3] "Griffiths, Vavasor (d. 1741)". Welsh Biography Online. Retrieved 23 December 2013.

[GB-4] Davies, Gwyn (2002). A light in the land: Christianity in Wales, 200–2000. Bridgend: Bryntirion Press. ISBN 1-85049-181-X. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |chapterurl= (help)

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