Talk:Trigonalidae

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Trigonalidae vs Trigonalyidae[edit]

@Dyanega: Hello. I'm aware that you're a commissioner, and I do respect your judgment about what the valid spelling is. It is a fact, though, that literature continues to disagree about it. See e.g. "Integrated taxonomy unveils new species of Trigonalyidae (Insecta, Hymenoptera) from Yunnan, China," last year in the Journal for Hymenoptera Research. I respect that you think the spelling shouldn't be controversial, but that is a different thing to it not being controversial. Fellow Creature (talk) 15:21, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not entirely sure you appreciate how narrowly I'm applying the term "controversy". I can give a very solid analogy: if I say "Joe Biden won the 2020 US Presidential Election" and lots of people say that the winner was Donald Trump, to me that is not a controversy, because there is OBJECTIVELY zero support for one of the two "sides". The situation with Trigonalidae versus Trigonalyidae is the same: OBJECTIVELY there is only one correct answer, and that is because the ICZN Code is explicit. Just because some people don't know, or refuse to acknowledge, what the Code says, does not make it a "controversy". The point remains, that as of January 1, 2000, the date the present edition of the Code went into effect, there was a new rule that went into effect on that date - Article 29.5, which did not exist until that date - and that rule objectively established that Trigonalidae was the correct spelling, as of that date. Any authors publishing the spelling "Trigonalyidae" after January 1, 2000, acted in direct violation of the Code, whether they were aware of their error or not, and whether they actively disagreed with the Code, or not. Frankly, I don't believe that stating what the rules actually say is "POV pushing". Dyanega (talk) 19:05, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]