Talk:Western Sydney Buses

Rapid bus transitways in Sydney

In preperation of opening of the other Rapid Bus Transitways, I propose that a lot of the material currently on this page should be moved to a newly created generic article designed to cover all articles related to the rapid bus transitway network in Sydney. This would be similar then to what exists for Cityrail.

I'm just not too sure which parts of this article are generic vs which parts are specific to Liverpool-Parramatta. Ga rr ie 03:25, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Would the name Syndey rapid bus transitway network be appropriate, or is there a formal Rapid Bus Transitway group/organisation whose name we are making use of? I am not sure why this article uses Rapid Bus Transitway as opposed to rapid bus transitway in it's title.Ga rr ie 03:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article title is its official name. I would oppose the same page for the different routes. The Liverpool-Parramatta transitway is a bus transitway for a single route; the new Northwest transitway, due to open next year, is a shared route by private bus companies that can use the route for their services. There won't be any route that uses the transitway in its entirety, as opposed to the one on this page. This Tway has notable history, being conceived in the quest to provide adequate transport for the Smithfield and west of Liverpool area. I think it's fine to have separate articles, just like individual rail lines do. (JROBBO 04:42, 23 August 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Is it proposed that the various Rapid Bus Transitways (RBT's) intersect/interact? ie, do they come together somewhere, or are they isolated from each other?

My proposal was based on an assumption that they form a network. If that is not the case perhaps it could be pointed out on the article?

I was not proposing to remove this article, just to hive off any information which may be common accross all RBT's in Sydney as they commence operation.

Is work on the Northwest transitway far enough along for Northwest Rapid Bus Transitway to be created? (Is that the correct name?) I know it has already caused significant disruption to the people along the route (how many houses were compulsorily aquired and demolished?) Ga rr ie 22:43, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved this to Western Sydney Buses, because that's the operator's name. Having individual pages for parts of the T-way network is unnecessary, given how little information there is to impart. The T-ways all share a history to some extent. Indeed, if there's agreement that the detailed route and timetable information from the three State Transit-linked pages can be pared back (fingers crossed), maybe all three government bus lines (and all their predecessors) can be consolidated on one page. Joestella 15:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I really think this should be moved back. The other T-ways are going to be operated by different people - the T-Way is a notable piece of infrastructure in Sydney and should have its own page, and not merely be relegated to the Western Sydney Buses Page. The Western Sydney Buses page should be merged with Sydney Buses, as they are run by the same people, and information will be redundant. JROBBO 07:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was under the impression that WSB would operate the T-ways. If not them, who? Joestella 13:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, JROBBO, yours is a good point well made and I've reversed my change. Joestella 19:16, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

References

Although the article refers to Action for Transport 2010, there is no mention of that in the References section. Is this plan still available to the public, if so could it be referenced?

Could a reference be added for the timetable information. An EIS should not be a reference for current operational matters such as a list of stations, and Dessanti's article does not list them either (it does provide a link to the timetable - but it does not provide the information this article lists).Ga rr ie 22:49, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to State Transit Authority of New South Wales

This page has been redirected.

Corporate and performance information belongs under "Western Sydney Buses" on State Transit Authority of New South Wales
Infratructure and t-way concept information belongs under Liverpool-Parramatta T-way
Information on timetabling and stopping patterns does not belong on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a directory

— Joestella 10:08, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stopping patterns are informative parts of a network's operations. It's ok to include them. Timetabling, no. JROBBO 10:37, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stopping patterns are, as any public transport user knows, subject to change (for all sorts of reasons, and at any time) and represent a key component of the timetable. Joestella 12:06, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]