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[edit] Metropolitan Registries

According to the Better Business Bureau link that keeps being removed, "Metropolitan Registries publishes electronic biographical directories on CD-Rom and on the internet. _ _ GENERAL INFORMATION: Better Business Bureaus often receive inquiries regarding direct mail solicitations which offer to include the recipient in a biographical directory. The solicitation may be accompanied by a request for a membership fee or for an order of one or more copies of the directory. Some publishers don't charge for the listing, but require purchase of the directory by those listed for a substantial amount. In most cases, no nominee or entry is turned down by the company."

This statement seems to verify that Metropolitan Registries is a legitimate example of a Who's Who scam. I have had a long discussion with user:Amanda11 on my talk page about this. See: [1] Amanda11 appears to be an employee of Metropolitan Registries. I have advised that her best recourse is to deal directly with BBB rather than delete material from WP. This will then clear up the issue. Otherwise it simply appears to be an attempt at a whitewash. Maustrauser 23:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Some people feel it is a legitmate action to be included in biographical publications, paid for or not. Political Correctness seems to doubt that any fee should be paid for a biography, but it is, this is just business. Time is spent in research, and paper is used in the bindings as well as the distribution of any book on any shelf. It is reasonable to accept that there is a fee involved with any business transaction, unless it is non profit or charity. Since these are so rare in our scheme of influence, registres often do charge some fee. Sometimes this fee is for the listing, as in advertising. If one considers every paid incluson a scam then an aweful lot of business actions would lead to the conclusive ideas. From personal experience I dont think that paid inclusion is a "wrong" thing yet many people seem to have various thoughts on these principles. Legitimacy can be a question "always". To call Whos Who -a scam- is overlooking many of the potential uses for these books. If biography, any biography publishing is termed a scam, we should go to church to condemn it, or continue to develop within ourselves better biographies and vett those contingincies with accuracy instead of blanket white wash. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.121.198.196 (talk) 01:33, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree, legitimate Who's Who services/publications can be useful. However, with this particular publication it isn't that people are being asked to pay for biographies. It is that they are being told one price over the phone, and being charged a much higher price on their credit card. That alone would make them a scam (and thus the involvement of the Better Business Bureau). Also, it is meant to be a "Who's Who" but there is no selection involved; they send their invitation letters out widely with no selection criteria apparent. Finally, anyone who has blogged about their experience and questioned the service has been bullied by this company. As a result, most that has been written incriminating them is anonymous. Here on Wikipedia and on other sites, their employees tend to write anonymously or otherwise misrepresent themselves to defend them. Which makes me wonder who the last contributor is. Connie Crosby 1:30, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Cambridge Who's Who "see also"

I have re-added Cambridge Who's Who since the target article ssems to have enough sources to justify inclusion here. --Enric Naval (talk) 16:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] unsourced entries in "see also"

I have removed the following from the "See also" section:

They have no sources to support that they are a Who's who scam, and they don't appear to be notable. If one of them is really notable then please write an article on them before re-adding them, or provide a third-party source showing that they are notable enough to mention them in this article. Wikipedia is not a place to smear random companies. --Enric Naval (talk) 11:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

While some may have been persuaded to join thinking that listings imply significance and importance, many of us, myself included have chosen to list with the organisation because of it's features and it's novel marketing approach that is obviously an attention getter. Comments and articles that bottom line it as a scam do a diservice to the 400,000 or so members who have paid to list and who have had features and tools to use that are useful as business and networking tools. Vic Jasin —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vicjasin (talkcontribs) 21:13, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Removing Marquis' Who's Who from legitimacy

I suspect that Marquis' Who's who has been added to the list of 'volumes beyond question' by someone partisan. Although it seems to have been an august and long-lived institution, its recent practices of selling the addresses of its biographees as described in the Forbes magazine feature here: [2] make this a contentious claim at the very least. Cefn

[edit] =Whos Who in america

This articel talks about whos who in america, the article removes was about the college and university listing which most universitites ascribe to, its different to say its a scam vs, its standards have gone down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.230.70.247 (talk) 20:05, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

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