Talk:Wire rope

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Comments[edit]

Just added a fair bit of stuff to this page. I'm a mechanical engineer interested in this topic. Happy to discuss changes with others here...? Bernard S. Jansen 08:23, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article "Wire Rope" is now OK!!! [User: Feyrer "". July 2011] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.58.143.96 (talk) 11:47, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also interested in wires. However this article is mainly on steel wire rope. Other wire materials should be added, such as Polyester, Nylon, PE/HMPE and Aramid --12:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)MBLe

Citation[edit]

Should i add a citation to this link: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/575600/suspension-bridge . After the word suspension bridge? Doorknob747 23:08, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

We need.[edit]

We need to add some info on nylon and other coatings. I would, but I dont know anything about them.

Anything I write would most likely be wrong. ha.

Materials[edit]

The focus of this article is steel wire rope (pointed out above). Feel free to add other materials, though it is likely that steel wire rope is a topic worth it's own page anyway. Until we get a lot more info on other types, probably best to bundle it all together. Bernard S. Jansen 01:34, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Left-hand lay image[edit]

This seems to show right-hand lay wire rope, or maybe some right-hand lay strands making up left-hand lay rope. (I'm not an expert.) If it's right-hand lay strands making up left-hand lay rope, that should be explained in the caption, IMHO. Lou Sander 02:12, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In this image, the individual wires are layed in a right-handed fashion to form each strand. The strands are then layed in a left-hand fashion to form the rope. The rope is called left-hand lay because the strands are layed in a left-hand manner. This is regardless of how the wires are layed to form each strand; however, the rope is also called an ordinary lay rope because the wires are layed into strands in the opposite direction to which the strands are layed to form the rope. I've tried to expalain this in the text of the article. If, after reading this, and the article, you can see a clearer way of explaining this concept, please edit the article. If I'm still not clear, let me know. That wouldn't be your fault, we just need to find the clearest way of expalaining the concepts. Bernard S. Jansen 04:05, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I added a sentence to each of two captions, hopefully making things clearer. (If it didn't, feel free to reverse it.) I think I was initially confused because the first photo in the article has solid strands (if that's the right terminology) in a right-hand lay rope. When I looked at the other pictures with multiple-wire strands, I focused on the individual strands instead of the rope itself, not realizing that I was looking at a rope made of multiple-wire strands.

This article was very interesting to me, since years ago I was on a Navy cargo ship that had all sorts of wire rope around (including spring lay), but I never knew much about it. Also I've seen a couple of Roebling historical markers here near Pittsburgh. Lou Sander 13:15, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The caption looks good. If you click on the first photo in the article you get a bigger version, and you can just make out the individual wires making up the strands, though I agree that it's not clear. Maybe this photo is past its use-by date... Bernard S. Jansen 01:15, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

When I first looked at the two images, they both looked like right hand lay, in the top photo, five ropes of right-hand lay, next to each other - the problem is the photos are so close to the rope that you see only the rope and nothing behind that is non-rope. (If the photo showed more than just the rope, more of the surrounding non-rope, you'd see that.) I will attempt to edit the photo's caption/description to explain that, or edit the text. If the photo is actually of 5 right-hand lay rope (instead of strands) adjacent to each other, please let me know, and fix it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by PReinie (talk • contribs) 04:12, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't this stuff also called cable?[edit]

I thought (in the US) a common alternate word for wire rope is 'cable'. Wire rope is a better term since it distinguishes this use from electrical cable, but shouldn't this alternate term be mentioned? --Chetvorno^TALK 17:07, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In Britain, I've always heard it referred to as steel cable. Ghiraddje 16:07, 23 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghiraddje (talk • contribs)

Steel wire rope (right hand lay) Image is actually showing left hand wire rope. Please change the pic or the title. Br, Mahesh Chaudhari. e-mail- maheshchaudharim@rediffmail.com. India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.4.14.138 (talk) 05:15, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wire Rope Corporation of America[edit]

My addition of a dismbig was deleted here]. Wire Rope Corporation of America claims to be the world's largest manufacturer of wire rope. It was hardly an advert. I'm not crazy about it being at the top of the page. But that unfortunately is how Wikipedia is structured.Americasroof (talk) 21:24, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Being the largest wire rope producer in the world does not equate to a hatnote in this article. At best it would belong in the see also section, however I don't think it deserves that. Article that would get a link to Wire Rope Corporation of America would be ones that directly reference the company. Wizard191 (talk) 13:29, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright[edit]

A lot of the content of this article was copied from the book "Wire Ropes: Tension, Endurance, Reliability" By Klaus Feyrer. I thought it was just a sentence or two, but there is a lot of it here.Ariel. (talk) 18:26, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Examples? Most of the article's content has been here since early January 2007, as far as I can tell, and the book was published in 2007. Nyttend (talk) 14:37, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No image of wire rope clamp[edit]

Description unclear - Rod57 (talk) 14:06, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Y I've added a picture of a rusty one. The rust is actually a good feature as it shows you the age of the wire. Stainless steel wire ropes can be dangerous because they don't show their age so clearly. Andrew D. (talk) 00:10, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistent terminology (strand and wire) between articles[edit]

In the Simple English version of this article (found here: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_rope), the following image is used: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:6x19_wire_rope_construction-en.svg. At the time of this discussion, that image isn't in the present article.

In the previous image, the smallest unit composing the wire rope is called a wire, followed by a strand, followed by the wire rope. But, in the article titled Wire (found here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire), the names of wire and strand are flipped (i.e. the smallest unit is called a strand, followed by a wire). So the terminology is inconsistent between those articles.

The terminology should be corrected in either article (whatever is considered as correct).

--Alej27 (talk) 06:43, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]