User talk:Archduk3

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March 2012

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Star Trek canon. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.
Thank you. -- Doniago (talk) 16:36, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit war problem.

Archduk3: It looks like you are involved in something of an edit war at Star Trek canon. Instead of forcing other people to accept your personal preferred version of an article by repeatedly reverting them, please try to discuss the matter and get people to agree with you first, or try to work out a compromise, on the article talk page. Thanks! --Jayron32 18:26, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

FWIW, Archduk did start a conversation at the Talk page a few days back, though the edit-warring on his and another editor's parts continued. Given the circumstances I gave both an edit warring advisory and suggested at the article's Talk page that they leave further edits to the disputed sections of the article to other editors at least until a consensus emerges. Doniago (talk) 19:50, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Shonuff, but the idea is to finish the conversation at the talk page before editing again, not merely to start it. --Jayron32 19:52, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

If the other party can't be bother to join a discussion, I consider it finished enough to make changes, and I'm offended that starting that discussion is still considered "forcing other people to accept [my] personal preferred version of an article" when I'm the only one involved that bothered to explain the reasons for my edits. One would think that reverting something time and again with only enough explanation that can fit in the edit summary would be forcing a personal preference, but then again, apparently I'm not enough of a person around here for my opinions to count. To think that MA is accused of driving away editors, when you fine folks just outright say that new and niche editors need not apply. - Archduk3 (talk) 18:49, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

That you started a discussion on the Talk page does not mean you're in the clear to continue reverting another editor's changes to the article repeatedly. That is still considered to be edit warring. The proper course of action would be to warn them for edit-warring, which I was forced to do in your stead, and if necessary report them at WP:AN3, not turn editing the article into a ping pong match. Thank you for your understanding. Doniago (talk) 16:27, 5 March 2012 (UTC)