User talk:ArmadilloFromHell/Archive 06/Month Sep

Continues from User talk:ArmadilloFromHell/Archive 06/Month August

September 2006

Ok, so I have gotten some advice from other users on Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance). I was told that I should place my source as a footnote on the end of the sentance. I was also told that "regressed" would be a better word than "digressed". Other than that I was told to leave a note here on your talks page and on Talk:Foresters Falls, Ontario so that there will be no edit war. Since you haven't responded to me in two days I'll go ahead and add my sourced, factual, NPOV statement. I trust that if you demand its deletion after this you will take it to the talks page first.--Matt D 00:22, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Small, Unsigned Band Articles

To ArmadilloFromHell: Would it be possible to establish a seperate subsection of Wikipedia for fans of unsigned bands to go and learn a few tidbits about the regional underground music scene, and get an idea of which ones to keep an eye out for? Following the deletion of the article Deadflat, I feel that if the purpose of wikipedia is to amass all knowledge, then these unknown, unnoteworthy bands certainly deserve a place in its archives. Please reply with your thoughts, Rattlehead05

Thanks for asking, and I wish I could give you an answer, but I don't have the experience. One problem is the shear volume of bands being submitted, that range from a couple of out of tune kids in a basement (most of which should never be listed) to a viable band. The problem is that new articles have to be judged very quickly and if the intial article does not show the bands notability, then it's likely to get deleted in a few minutes. I think you should ask your question in Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) --ArmadilloFromHell 02:33, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, sorry dude. I'm trying to get the hang of this place, ok? I was putting things up and testing how it looks. Jesus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LegacyX (talk • contribs)

There is no mercy - I wish the whole things worked differently. Before anyone new wrote an article they should get a warning to build a pretty complete article to begin with, or it's likely to get deleted. I know the feeling, the first article I wrote disappeared in less than a minute, and I thought I forgot to save it. I had a copy and posted it again, then I got told it was too short and it got deleted again. It's a hard way to learn. --ArmadilloFromHell 06:09, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

==Please see my talk page. I don't know how to properly communicate with you. Djlynnwood Do I have to leave message here or are you notified of replies on my talk page In any event please read again... Djlynnwood

Speedy Deletion

Please read the text of CSD A7 carefully, please. If an article stresses importance of somekind, more often than not, it's not speedy material. Try using PRODs, next time around. Thanks, Yank sox 02:24, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What's the point in having a free encyclopedia if certain people can decide who's famous and who's more important to be on the encyclopedia for others, as long as an article is about fact I do not see why it should be deleted? Leonardo2505

Confined Space Rescue

Ok no prob on the Guardian page I put up,I guess it can be considered as such.Even though Advertising is: PAID promotion of goods, services, companies and ideas by an identified sponsor.No biggie just wanted to help people needing life saving services to know where to find some. But on the confined space rescue page you mean to tell me the other two commercial links are acceptable? Only reason I put us up there is because I saw those links there and thought to provide people with a link on a company that actually provides confined space rescue!

Vandal Blocked

Sorry for the inconvenience in the slow WP:AIV response. He's been blocked indef as a vandalism only account. alphaChimp^(talk) 00:37, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, looked like you blocked him pretty fast --ArmadilloFromHell 01:13, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

personal attacks at Articles for deletion/Yenta claus

Hi - I'm just letting you know that I redacted personal attacks on you and others by User:Bhires at this AfD discussion. He's made more than one, and I just couldn't let some of them stay up there. Again, just letting you know, and I'm watching him, the article, and the Afd. :-) See you around - Baseball,Baby! ^balls^•^strikes 05:41, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks --ArmadilloFromHell 05:53, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zvi Yair

please think before you act, Zvi Yair is a majorly famous poet and not a "db-bio". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.188.117.69 (talk • contribs)

Then you need to change and improve the article to make that apparent. I originally tagged the article for immediate deletion, and then gave it a second chance. Also please read Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages --ArmadilloFromHell 22:04, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to have been expanded, so there is no cause for concern. --ArmadilloFromHell 22:06, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

By the way

I made a few changes to your comments on User_talk:BernieGlassman. I think I preserved the intent. Please let me know if my changes were at all of a problem.—Nat Krause^(Talk!) 21:39, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nice idea - I never know how best to deal with copyviol when the poster appears to be the owner - from his point of view there is no violation. It never occured to me it might be someone else. --ArmadilloFromHell 22:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tam Goossen

I cannot understand why she is deleted. She has been a long time local politician. Please explain. --RoyHo 10:42, 8 September 2006

Evidently you created the article at least twice and it was deletd both times. I probably tagged it for possible deletion (but I have no ability to delete articles), so at least one other editor agreed. Based on your notes and edit history - you have created pages for a number of related people - all of which have been deleted. Wiki is not a place to list everyone who lives, people must be notable and if you create an article you must provide infomration that proves the person as notable. See Wikipedia:Notability (people) and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not . Also please do not remove warnings from yout talk page - see [[1]]--ArmadilloFromHell 15:11, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

what the hell?

i think you are talking about the picture i have deleted in commons because it was a duplicate and the fact that i have substitute the name of the picture in your page with the new one.. what's the problem? please answer here in english. Bye, BounceY2K. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.41.187.240 (talk • contribs)

Changing my user page without permission is vandalism --ArmadilloFromHell 03:02, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You have a curious concept of what vandalism is. I don't think that change a link to a picture that didn't exist anymore is vandalism. Whatever. I won't do it anymore. Have a nice day. Bye, BounceY2K. PS: this is a sign.

I would like you to notice that there is a picture (Image:Cow.gif) in commons that is exactly the one you had. Here in wikipedia you have another picture with the same name. I advice you to rename this picture you have with another name, so that you can use the picture you had with the name Image:Cow.gif. Bye. BounceY2K

And that's where the error is, the name of the picture in commons, it got renamed in error, instead of being deleted, there is a picture in Wiki with the same name and if two picture have the same name, the one in Wikit gets used. --ArmadilloFromHell 13:31, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Inspector Samuel P. Cowley

I noticed you prod of the above article and changed it to a different procedure. When you discover a copyright violation you have a few options (prod is not really useful): if the article was created within the past 48 hours and it infringes a commercial website, it is speedable with the tag {{db-copyvio|url=url of source}}. If unfit for that speedy tag, then the article should be blanked and the text replaced with {{copyvio | url=insert URL}}--~~~~, if and only if the copyright infringing text is the first edit (then follow the instruction given in that tag for listing at today's WP:CP page, and don't forget to warn the user with {{nothanks-drm}}). If it is an addition of copyrighted text to a preexisting article, revert the article to a prior version and note the copyright violation in your edit summary. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit 01:06, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I think I submit at least a couple of copyvio every day - but that one was not so clear. Not all the content was copied, and the site it came from seemed to be a copy/summary of a book - it was not obviously copyright problems, but it was copy and paste and unacceptable from that point of view. --ArmadilloFromHell 01:18, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm. I just looked at it again and every word is a direct cut and paste from that website. It's a violation whether or not the site is quoting a third source--you can't copy the text of books either. Anyway, glad you didn't need the above tutorial and I hope you didn't grit your teeth too much. I too sometimes get advice I already know well, but you'd be shocked how many editors with 5,000 edits know nothing about how to deal with copyright violations.--Fuhghettaboutit 01:40, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Advice is always welcome - the instruction manual is not so good sometimes --ArmadilloFromHell 02:34, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

David Ren Jenkins

I've edited that part out. Is it OK now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gluben (talk • contribs)

It would help if you would sign your name and link to the article. I only tagged the article, I cannot delete it, so someone else will decide. --ArmadilloFromHell 00:37, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Angus Dun

How right you are and a good change too re. removal of commercial content provider. However the above article has been licenced under GFDL on the original site now, so it's not a copyvio any more! (See article talk page.) Tyrenius 17:28, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vesseiln Marinov - Natzin

One for your attention, if you wouldn't mind. Tyrenius 18:14, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Hi can you please tell me exactly what vandalism I have caused, as I have spent the last 30 mins cleaning up vandalism.

Cheers --Lethaniol 16:27, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You added to G-Nilz the {censored) words G-Nilz: F*** OLE IN THE A**! - you added to Doug Lohr he is a homo --ArmadilloFromHell 16:33, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Hi there - fair point I can see the vandalism that has been done - I can only say that I did not do it - unless I did it by accident or someone hacked into my computer/username! - I will try and get to the bottom of it - --Lethaniol 16:36, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

I dont know - I have been using Lupins filter recent changes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lupin/Filter_recent_changes) and I thought I was reverting these changes - have no idea how they happened!! --Lethaniol 16:38, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Okay I have changed my password - am sorry for the edits that heppened under my name - exactly the kind of thing I have been trying to clean up. Thanks --Lethaniol 16:42, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I realized after I checked your history that something strange was happening. --ArmadilloFromHell 22:18, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Render at Twin Cities Underground, 22nd of September (Friday) at 8:00 pm

Dear ArmadilloFromHell, You recently deleted a artical named Render - Fuji Co. My reasons for having this page up are 1. so that render fans my use it to check dates and times of up coming concerts and 2. because only render fans and members would ever see it so it would be out of sight and mind... plz comply - Fuji...

p.s. this is not a whole bunch of junk to add to wikipedia, just so you know that im not trying to spam you or anything... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fujitakeout (talk • contribs)

Actually I do not have the authority to delete it, I just tag it for possible deletion. An admin has to delete it, so at least two people have to agree on that. I would guess that several hundred articles about bands get added to Wiki daily. I'm sure 99% get deleted within a short time. Bands must be 'notable'. See Wikipedia:Deletion of vanity articles and Wikipedia:Notability (music) for some idea of the guidelines. It does not mean your article is spam, or untrue, you might be a great band waiting to be discovered, but until you are, you probably will not get an article. Sorry. --ArmadilloFromHell 02:27, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another problem is that the article seemed like a promo ad for a time-related event. Not a good fit for Wiki. --ArmadilloFromHell 02:28, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please add this article to your watchlist

Armadillo, You have shown interest in an article related to Kerla, India. I would request your watcful gaze over an unbalanced and biased (at placed pure propaganda) article named Nair. Here is the link, [[2]] Yesterday a user named Ramkumb has made some unscrupuous removal from the article. According to the Wiki policy of not provoking vandals, I have desisted from reverting them. Vigilant eyes like yours should turn toward this artilce, I suppose. Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.91.253.208 (talk • contribs)

It would be difficult for me to comment on the removal, since I do not know if the removed text is factual or not. It is possible they were removed since they may be considered defamatory statements. I does not seem to be obvious vandalism. If someone would add those statements back in and attach/provide a reference/source for their validity, and then they were removed it might be a problem. The best thing would be to discuss it in the articel talk page. --ArmadilloFromHell 03:30, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nicolas Warner

Ha! You read my mind at I was just about to tag it the same with about exactly the same edit summary :) Cheers --AbsolutDan ^(talk) 05:28, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why is that all the crazies appear at this time of night? An hour ago, there was not much garbage being submitted. Then I made the mistake of checking again. --ArmadilloFromHell 05:30, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen many theories... I think it's spammers. They spam by day, and write non-sensical bio articles by night. --AbsolutDan ^(talk) 05:36, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused

did you like my articles or not? I'm having a little trouble figuring out whether you like my articles or not. Yet-another-user 05:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry - I'm half asleep. I really like them. A few years ago, a local TV station was broadcasting a whole lot of films like that, along with documentary movies on how certain things were made, like building the Hoover Dam. They have a certain style that's nice. I wish I could rent them. --ArmadilloFromHell 05:57, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mao mantou isn't speediable

User:ArmadilloFromHell|ArmadilloFromHell]], the article Mao mantou isn't speediable as providing no context because the article does explain the context of its subject. If you believe it should be deleted (IMO, a reasonable opinion), it must be done through WP:AFD. Let me know if you have any questions about this. JDoorj a m Talk 06:50, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I suspected as much, but AfDs are so tiring, just finished one and managed to mistype the articel name, and spent more time trying to repair the damage, and I'm going to sleep. But thanks for posting. --ArmadilloFromHell 06:54, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kuntayithote

Hey Armadillo, Out of sheer, unpardonable ignorance I have removed the deletion tag from Kuntayithote and became aware of it only late. Although I have given some explanation I understand that that was in violation of the Wiki policy. Please tell me what I should do abou that. Also look at [[3]] where I gave some info on it to two concerned (about its veracity) users. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuntan (talk • contribs)

I don't believe you did anything wrong. It was, however most confusing, at first it looked like a nonsense article (of which there are many) so I tagged it for speedy deletion, you would have been wrong to remove that, but you did not. Then I think I tagged it again but differently, then I had second thoughts that it might be a spelling problem and changed the "speedy delete" to a "prod" . I'm not sure who removed that, but it was ok if you did. You then provided the alternate spelling to prove it was legitimate, and all worked out ok. --ArmadilloFromHell 20:39, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Armadillo, Sorry for wasting your time. Much of the stuff Wikipedia has about Kerala is as much or worse nonsense. Kuntan 07:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Cum Tree" Article Deletion

Um, yes, you've seeemed to have deleted my entry under the name "Cum Tree." I've chosen not to again create the page until first seeing your objections to it. You must have some, otherwise the page would still exist.

Where I grew up, the term "cum tree" is a very common term for a particular species of tree. It is true that I did not exactly know what tree, but I considered it the purpose of a wiki that someone (such as yourself) would add to the entry, modify it, make it better rather than deleting it.

I say this because you, yourself, refered me to a species of tree; that is, you recognized the colloquialism and directed me to the scientific name. So, this means a few things: the colloquialism does signify something, the signified is identifiable between people, and that "cum tree" is a legitimate sign as it does what it is supposed to, conjure up a certain tree.

So. The legitimacy of the term seems to be taken care of, but somewhere else it seems you imply my logic breaks down. If wikipedia is not a site for colloquialisms, then wikipedia is not what I had been told it was. If, rather, you felt my tone to be unacceptable, then I should alter my tone. If, rather, there is some other reason, let me know.

Regards, --731rocks 01:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I happen to be familiar with the concept, because I saw someone try to make similar edits in the past, and thought it was a total hoax, so I researched it. Changes were made to an existing tree article, I forget which one, but then removed. I think several different trees have this kind of smell (I think Chinese Chestnut is one). If you have references that the term "Cum tree" is used you could possibly add it. (The Urban dictionary is not a reliabel source) --ArmadilloFromHell 02:01, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bear in mind - Wikipedia is not a dictionary or a usage or jargon guide -- see [[4]] --ArmadilloFromHell 02:06, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

yes, yes. so it seems i've the decision to distinguish the term's credibility (its ethos per se) to become a part of the wikipedia community or the wiktionary. yes, yes: funny. --731rocks 19:58, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I saw that you tagged an article with {{db-repost}}. That tag is only to be used for articles that were recreated after an AFD (or XFD), and does not apply to articles deleted via {{prod}} or {{db}}. If the article hasn't changed much, you can use the same db criterion used to eliminate the first incarnation of the article ({{db-bio}}, {{nonsense}} etc.). Keep up the good work! -- Merope ^Talk 15:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, however I'm confused, many are routinely using db-repost for all reposts, same as I do, it should be rephrased to indicate it's only for AfD. Currently it says The given reason is: It is reposted content that was removed in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. and points to Wikipedia:Deletion policy - which covers all three types of deletion. --ArmadilloFromHell 15:42, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, the template probably should be changed. I'm looking at the Criteria for Speedy Deletion, specifically Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#G4, which states that it has to be from AFD or another XFD process (i.e., anything that requires a deletion review to recreate). I'll head over to the template to discuss changes. -- Merope ^Talk 16:37, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Just to clarify, {{db-repost}} is intended only for a "substantially identical copy" of a page or article deleted through one of our consensus driven channels, and is not a general catch-all for previously deleted articles. For example, if a given article was speedy deleted on the grounds of being nonsense or a copyvio, we wouldn't want to a prevent valid, well written article on the same subject down the road. I wouldn't worry about this too much though, if someone is repeatedly posting blatant nonsense, it is going to be deleted regardless of what template is used, we just need to make sure we're not stifling potential good articles from newcomers without giving things like notability a chance to be established. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 20:29, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

VBKeys

Hi, Why you delete the External link VBkeys.com, but I can find lots of external link in the Visual Basic Section, even if it is an Ad, but it is a resource too, Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.246.49.13 (talk • contribs)

I am sure there are thousands (or tens of thousands) of external links that should be removed. I would guess I've removed at least a thousand myself. I can't spend my whole life removing all of them, I just remove them when I see them. Eventually they all get removed by someone. The fact that inapprapriate links exist does not give blanket permission for more to be added. --ArmadilloFromHell 15:04, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Joan Tollifson

Hi there. I'm currently helping my Grandfather get into Wikipedia by working on this article that you recently tagged for deletion. We've added some information regarding her published works and will be filling in more shortly. I've added {{hangon}}; could you explain what your problem was to me more specifically? Thanks for your help. —Xyrael / 16:34, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I tag articles that I don't think fit, they range from pure nonsense to well-intentioned but incomplete to hoaxes. With hundreds or even thousnads of biographic articles being added every day, we have to have some kind of filtering. Your article is about an author who does yet have a published book. In my mind it's borderline. I do not make the decision to delete, so it is now out of my hands at this point. Adding hangon' is good, but you should provide additional information at Talk:Joan Tollifson to try and prevent it being deleted. --ArmadilloFromHell 16:42, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ghostrider (streetracer)

Hey ArmadilloFromHell. Just leaving you a quick note that I've removed the speedy tag from the Ghostrider (streetracer) article. This is a famous, or rather infamous, illegal street racer from Europe, and I would prefer it be discussed at AfD if there are any doubts. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 05:39, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, I figure 5% or my speedies will be wrong, thanks for telling me. --ArmadilloFromHell 06:01, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Give me a reason?

I don't understand how you can delete my article on Amram R Shapiro without reason. Mr Shapiro is a 20 year colleague of mine and a leader in his field. The facts submitted are verifiable. help with your reasoning? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Krapllew (talk • contribs)

First, please always sign posts that you make in talk pages - see Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages

Second, I do not have the ability to delete articles, I only tag them for possible deleteion, and someone else has to agree with me and then delete the article. Since I tag so many articles for deletion each day, I have no idea what yours was about. All I can tell you is that you created it twice, and it was deleted twice. That's a pretty sure indication that the article is unsuitable. Articles about people must be about notable people and provide the information that proves their notability. Simply saying someone is important is not adequate. --ArmadilloFromHell 15:55, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shtickmen

slaps Armadillo on paws with a wet fish* Shame on you! Never use a {{db-band}} on a film article. Especially when the film article asserts notability by claiming multiple awards and film festival screenings. If you believe this still needs to be deleted, please take it to AFD instead. Anyway, everyone makes mistakes (me included), just promise to be more careful next time. :) - Mgm|^(talk) 11:13, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fast Eddies

I apologize about the comment on your user page. I only ask because I would assume that I am not the only one to create an article and save it before I am truely done editing it and it's somewhat frustrating to have an outside person immediately criticize it before I'm done. Perhaps you could suggest an article needs clean up only after it's older than 10 minutes old. I will promise to never refer to brand new articles that I have compiled myself as "my article" I can see how that is truly offensives and the utmost confusing for all those I communicate with. Minshullj 05:45, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's unforunately is how things work, my first article was deleted before I finished it. It's a common error to create an article with only a title, and expect to add content an hour later. Articles like that usually get deleted within five minutes. When I'm monitoring New page changes, I expect to read and tag them within less than a minute. I can't keep track of what I see that needs changing, and go back and check them ten minutes later to see if it got fixed. It's not uncommon for someone to create an article, another person to tag it for cleanup, and two of three other people to jump in and do the cleanup all within ten minutes of an article's creation. I happen to enjoy it when someone sees some changes I make, fixes any errors and omissions I made, and improves upon it. --ArmadilloFromHell 05:51, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher Ingvaldson

Go ahead and prune it, or I will in just a second. Thanks, NawlinWiki 17:04, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll leave you to it, I've got to go and do some real paid work for a while (and stop being addicted here - lol) --ArmadilloFromHell 17:06, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RECENT EDIT

Recently you edited a page on Camp Wah-Nee and significantly cut it down. The page is not an advertisement, it was written by a former camper. I am trying to convey a sense of what it is that goes on at Wah-Nee, not sell the camp. Please don't cut all that out again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bap1042 (talk • contribs)

1. When placeing message on talks pages - please always add to the end of the existing messages

2. Please sign your name - see Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages

3. Your article is unacceptable as you have written it, See your talk page. --ArmadilloFromHell 19:38, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandal

True, I thought the same thing, but we're not doing any good assuming bad faith. He's already been autoblocked, and I have no plans on removing that. The account will be blocked at a moment's notice if any more vandalism occurs. alphaChimp^(talk) 06:16, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Continues in User talk:ArmadilloFromHell/Archive 06/Month Oct