User talk:Cymru.lass

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Happy Birthday!![edit]

Happy 16th birthday, cymru lass! Have a great day! smile Set Sail For The Seven Seas 15° 30' 30" NET 01:02, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Holy expletive, it's my birthday!
blushing I forgot. tongue out Thanks for the birthday wishes! Happy Halloween!! --- cymru lass (hit me up)(background check) 01:04, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
I happened upon this page and learnt it's your birthday. I don't think we've met before, but just to spread the Wikilove: Happy Birthday! Heimstern Läufer (talk) 07:57, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Why thank you, kind stranger! Aside from a friend who stayed up 'til midnight for me, no-one off-wiki has mentioned it yet. Then again, it is something like 2 AM.... tongue out --- cymru lass (hit me up)(background check) 08:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Hey yeah - Happy Birthday from another Dr Who fan! Now you need more than a nibble to store your age! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:47, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, Graeme! This is all very pleasant. smile This was actually the first thing I saw upon waking up due to forgetting to turn my laptop off! --- 14:02, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
You actually forgot is was your birthday? surprised Might have been due to the concussion! grin Set Sail For The Seven Seas 213° 33' 0" NET 14:14, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Penblwydd Hapus! (and that's about as far as my knowledge of Welsh goes I'm afraid) Hope you're having a lovely day. the wub "?!" 21:32, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Hope I'm not late already wink; however, buon compleanno from me too! Salvio Let's talk about it! 23:47, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
@TheSevenSeas, yes, I managed to forget it was my birthday grin I'm special like that. But it made it all that much better!
@the wub, thank you! I'd say thanks in Welsh, but I'm afraid I lack any knowledge whatsoever of the language, except "cymru". I won't get the chance to start learning for a few years
@Salvio, HI! Long time no talk! Thanks for the birthday wishes!! I love Italian (don't let my Spanish homies hear me saying that; they'll kill me :P)! smile You're definitely not too late, at least by my clock! --- cymru lass (hit me up)(background check) 00:38, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
I believe "thanks" in welsh is "diolch". There's always The Welsh Wikipedia if you're up for learning the language. Spanish and Italian are very similar languages, so it shouldn't be too bad. Forgetting does indeed make it that more special! Suprises are great! grin Set Sail For The Seven Seas 16° 13' 45" NET 01:04, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the Welsh tip ! smile Hahaha, the fact that Italian and Spanish makes the playful rivalry between my Spanish and Italian friends all the more "serious". tongue out --- cymru lass (hit me up)(background check) 01:09, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
No problem! I take it you're the inbetween? Someone's got to prevent World War III! smile Set Sail For The Seven Seas 256° 5' 0" NET 17:04, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Hahaha yep! I'm the gringa who speaks Spanish better than several of the Latinas and used to speak Italian tongue out --- cymru lass (hit me up)(background check) 02:20, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
All that and to think Italy and Spain don't even share a border! surprised I guess you should learn French then! smile Set Sail For The Seven Seas 321° 8' 15" NET 21:24, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Yep, I'm taking it next year—despite the fact that the French accent is the only accent I can't imitate. I can even do accents when reading (Romanized) Arabic and Hindi, but when I try to read French, I sound like a strangled cat tongue out --- cymru lass (hit me up)(background check) 01:03, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
It takes time and practice to develop these things unless you've grown up with it. In that case, it becomes second nature. Can you actually read Arabic and Hindi? That's way better than French! smile Set Sail For The Seven Seas 325° 37' 15" NET 21:42, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
I can't read or understand Arabic and Hindi, but if I'm given a written-out (i.e., in the Roman alphabet) transliteration, I can do a passable accent. I pick up accents really easily—which isn't always a good thing. I spent 3 weeks in New Zealand almost five years ago, and I still speak with a en-zedder intonation and use their slang—which confuses the heck out of people, especially since I don't speak with an accent tongue out --- cymru lass (hit me up)(background check) 23:54, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
That could come in useful at times! One of my friends is a kiwi, so I sort of know some of the slang. Do you really sound like a strangled cat when you try to read French? It can't be that bad! smile You know what a strangled cat sounds like? surprised All I've ever heard are cats squealing at one another! Now that's what you call a cat fight! grin Set Sail For The Seven Seas 3° 31' 30" NET 00:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Well, I don't know what a strangled cat sounds like per se, but I'm guessing it's pretty close to me speaking French. I was in a French opera once (Carmen), and it took me forever to make sure I didn't sound like a fool! --- cymru lass (hit me up)(background check) 00:36, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I didn't think so. grin I would be surprised if you did. tongue out Isn't that going round in circles? If you were in a French opera, then you must have a good accent! smile Set Sail For The Seven Seas 14° 10' 45" NET 00:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Lucky for me, opera singers use softer accents than the typical Fresh accent when singing opera, at least where I live. grin --- cymru lass (hit me up)(background check) 01:44, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
I guess in that case you can get away with it! grin If you did end up in a real French opera, then you'd have to try even harder! smile Set Sail For The Seven Seas 267° 1' 45" NET 17:48, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Hahaha, true that! --- cymru lass (hit me up)(background check) 23:06, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Barnstars, get your barnstars here, get 'em while they're hot[edit]

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Thanks for contesting Bencey's speedy deletion of Return of the Killer Klowns from Outer Space in 3D. He probably wasn't even deleting for the reason he gave, he most likely did it because I created the page, and him and I aren't exactly friendly to each other. So thanks. --Matthew (talk) 18:40, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Well-meant, I am sure, but ...[edit]

...Was this really necessary. The poor guy has been blocked for three months and that happened a week or more before your note. I've no idea what particular welcome message it is that you are referring to but, frankly, the thing comes across as being extremely officious in the circumstances. Maybe take a peek at more recent events before slapping this boilerplate-type message on other people? - Sitush (talk) 00:16, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm currently substing all transcluded incidences of the template {{welcome}} and if I see a particular welcomer's username pop up more than a few times, I've been leaving the note (which I personally wrote) on their talkpage. I apologize for not realizing the guy was blocked. That said, all my message is is a short friendly reminder/possible introduction to the concept of substing. My only goal is to give the user a heads-up. I'm not trying to be officious, and I'm not "slapping" it on anyone. Thank you for alerting me to the fact that I failed to notice the guy's blocked status. I'll be more careful about that in the future. — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 00:20, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I've never understood subst'ing and I'm sure that my name will pop up on your list eventually. Generally, I use Twinkle but that is not always the case. Perhaps you need to explain the underlying issues? Dammit, I've gone 100k edits here and haven't got it, so either I am particularly stupid (possible!) or it is really a rather arcane aspect of the project. I'm not saying that arcane aspects do not require attention but they probably do require more explanation. - Sitush (talk) 00:27, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
In my message I left a link to the Wikipedia namespace page on substitution, and I also explained how to substitute something (my message says: "[f]or example, you should use {{subst:welcome}} rather than {{welcome}}"). In my experience, something short and sweet like that is a lot better received by users unfamiliar with the topic than a wall of text. The link is right there if they want to read more. — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 00:31, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
How's this message? It's a modified version of {{uw-subst}}. — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 00:48, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Ok. We'll have to disagree about that. I'm also now curious why your talk page messages are appearing with a "the preceding comment is signed by" note. Some very weird goings-on here, as I am sure you are not daft enough not to sign your posts on such a regular basis. Anyway, I'm past caring and doubtless someone else will chip in as and when ... - Sitush (talk) 00:51, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
I am signing my comments. The "unsigned comments" message reads "preceding unsigned comment" [emphasis added by me]. My sig reads "preceding signed comment". It's just what my custom user signature looks like. — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 00:54, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Subst[edit]

Thank you for the feedback! Is it possible to have {{welcome}} set up so it always substs? WhisperToMe (talk) 03:30, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

You're very welcome! :) I don't think one can actually code a template so it automatically substs (i.e., without a bot coming along and doing it). I just spent a little while digging through the Wikipedia and Help namespaces, and nothing came up. I think it could be done by a bot. (Hmm... I think I smell a new project for cymru.lass! I've always wanted to tackle the task of learning how to create a bot.) If not, I'm perfectly content to do it through AutoWikiBrowser every few months. (I'm one of those weird people who finds tasks like that oddly soothing.)
Oh, also! I noticed you typed out <nowiki>{{welcome}}</nowiki>. Did you know about the template {{tl}}? Typing in {{tl|welcome}} gives {{welcome}}, which saves you a bit of time. And, if you're like me, fumbling around for the > key. My pinky hates the > and / keys.) There's also {{tlf}}, which is the same, except it doesn't link to the template. Also, {{tls}}, which links the template and puts subst: in front of it ({{tls|welcome}} gives {{subst:welcome}}). And if you want it to display in code, there's {{tlx}} (would display {{welcome}}), {{tlc}} (would display {{welcome}}), and {{tlxs}} (would display {{subst:welcome}}). All of those templates can also handle displaying parameters (their documentation pages explain how). Anyways. Just thought you might enjoy that little time-saving trick. :) My apologies for the wall of text. Happy editing! — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 15:29, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
I just stumbled upon Category:Wikipedia templates to be automatically substituted, which appears to "belong" to User:AnomieBOT. So, there does appear to be a bot who does this kind of thing. I'll head on over to AnomieBOT and ask her owner how I should go about having the welcome templates added to her task list. (I'm not entirely sure if there has to be additional discussion or not; I'm assuming the owner will know.) Cheers, — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 15:48, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Third thing (this is just a point of interest), there is a template called {{require subst}}, which produces an error message if the template is not substed. That said, I wouldn't think it'd be appropriate for use on any of the welcome templates, simply because a good chunk of the users being welcomed might be confused by the error message. AnomieBOT (or just me doing it in AWB appears to be the way to go. — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 15:56, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

RE: Substing templates[edit]

Thanks for your message. It has been well noted. Cheers :) --Enock4seth (talk) 06:06, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your message and clean up of all the ones I did wrong! Ellin Beltz (talk) 06:35, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Aw, thanks guys. I mean, you're welcome! You know what I mean. :) Glad I could help. Happy editing!! — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 15:30, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Welcome too. Nice, Connecting with Wikipedians around the globe bit by bit. :) --Enock4seth (talk) 19:02, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes, thanks for the reminder, obviously needed in my case. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:16, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Welcome template[edit]

Oooppppssss!!!! I never knew that - thanks for letting me know! And BTW I'm sorry to hear about your wrist. Praying that it will heal soon! --Bermicourt (talk) 20:58, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

No worries! When I first started editing as an IP, I would occasionally welcome people, and I didn't know that {{welcome}}, etc., were supposed to be substed. (Come to think of it, I don't think I knew what substing even was.) I'm just passing on the knowledge—after all, isn't that what Wikipedia's all about? :) Thank you for the well-wishes! — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 16:28, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
I've been here for years and never knew there was a substed, or any of the other details you've pointed out on this thread. I will just cut-and-paste the right ones now, as I've been doing for the wrong ones since 2006! I don't like to see even anon-IPs go unwelcomed, so I welcome every single red "talk" that shows up on my watchlist. Sorry you had so many of mine to straighten out!! Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:48, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
@Ellin Beltz: It's no trouble at all :) I used a nifty tool called AutoWikiBrowser, and I'm one of those weird people that actually thinks stuff like that is fun. Tasks like that are how I unwind after a long day of school and work. Also, I just discovered there's a bot that substitutes other templates that are supposed to be substituted, and I'm going about getting the welcome templates added to its list.
Also, I think it's so cool that you care so much about welcoming new users. Have you heard of Twinkle? It's an addition to the editing interface you can enable through Special:Preferences (you don't have to download anything). I think you'd find it super useful. It adds a little drop-down menu to the right of the Read, Edit and Watchlist buttons. There are a bunch of tools in the drop-down, and one of them helps you quickly add a welcome template to a user talk page. It's awesome because there are a bunch of different templates to chose from (and there's a preview button you can click to see what the message looks like, if you want). There's the standard welcome template (and a couple variations of it), the standard IP welcome template, a template for welcoming an IP who has vandalized (it's firm about vandalism being wrong, but still pretty friendly), and a whole bunch more. There's also an optional space for you to link to an article they edited. The tool also automatically substitutes the template and signs your message for you.
I saw from your userpage that you're a vandalism fighter (me too!)—you would also find Twinkle useful for that. On user talk pages, there are several vandalism-related options in the drop-down menu. One is to warn a user (there are several different types of warnings available, not just the {{uw-vandalism}} series), and like the welcome dialog, you can link to an article and preview the warning and the tool automatically substs the template and signs the warning. In the warning dialog, there's also a box for you to add your own message onto the warning. Another vandalism-related option is labelled ARV, and it brings up a dialog with options to report a username policy violation, a possible sockpuppet account, and to report a user to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism (that one has a few sub-options—vandalism after final warning, vandalism after recently being released from a block, promotion-only account, and so on). There's a couple other features I think you'd find useful, but I just realized how long-winded this message is getting. You can head on over to Wikipedia:Twinkle to read more about the tool (and find instructions on how to enable it). Also, Wikipedia:Twinkle/doc talks more about each individual feature (and provides links to a place where you can test out welcoming/warning with Twinkle). Be sure to check out the section titled "Revert and rollback"—there's some changes Twinkle makes to diff pages that are also useful for vandalism reversion. Also, if you decide to enable Twinkle, head over to Wikipedia:Twinkle/Preferences once you do. There are different preferences you can set (including one to automatically open a user's talk page in a new tab or window after you revert their edit).
Anyways. I hope you found that useful. :) Cheers, and happy editing! — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 17:29, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
That is super useful, I enabled Twinkle and will use it!! Thanks so much! Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:00, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Glad I could help! Happy editing, — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 19:14, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Kwamikagani's () pages[edit]

I will be perfectly happy to delete Melanau–Kajang languages when and only when all the links from mainspace to Melanau–Kajang languages () have been corrected. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:58, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

  • Don't tell Kwami because a) I don't like his attitude and b) I am trying to discourage him from creating these silly () pages, but I have to admit that the preferred action would have been:
RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:20, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm a little confused as to why Kwami's creating these pages in the first place. What exactly are they? Cymru.lass in America (talk) 16:33, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
  • See this discussion and see if you can find a clear explanation in it. I clearly rub Kwami up the wrong way so it might be instructive if you were to ask him. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:42, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Declined speedies for Serial ata and Esata[edit]

Hi. I see that you have declined my request to speedy delete these two redirects in my effort to clean up the redirects into the "Serial ATA" article somewhat.

I am all for adding useful redirects, but I really don't think that these two ones serve any useful purpose.

As you probably know the topics are correctly spelled "Serial ATA" and "eSATA", and while there are various non-standard forms in common use (which we should support, of course), noone knowing the correct capitalization would write them as "Serial ata", "serial ata" or "esata". Since our search box is case-insensitive, it will still catch these form sonce the two redirects are deleted, as the actual article is named "Serial ATA" and we still have a redirect from "eSATA" to "Serial ATA". So no functionality will get lost at all.

Further, since these capitalizations are wrong, if they were used in articles they would have to be corrected, anyway. So, they don't serve a purpose here as well.

You wrote: "Redirects from alternate capitalizations are common." That's right, but there is a difference between alternative capitalizations and incorrect capitalizations. We should support any correct alternative capitalization, but not incorrect ones, in particular not, when they don't serve a purpose such as catching a common misspelling or such.

Regarding: "Moreover, this page is visited quite frequently (http://stats.grok.se/en/latest30/Serial_ata), meaning people are in fact using this redirect to navigate" Well, I guess this is down to people typing "serial ata" or "Serial ata" in the search box. However, this is no problem at all. If we delete the redirects "Serial ata" and "Esata", users can still type "serial ata" and "esata" and the remaining redirect "eSATA" will take over and bring up the correct article "Serial ATA". In other words, I think, we get these stats only because these redirects exists. Once they are gone, we will get the same stats for "Serial ATA" and "eSATA".

In one of the edit summaries you mentioned "R#KEEP". I tried to look this up, but this redirects to an apparently unrelated article - what did you mean by that?

Thanks and greetings. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 21:34, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

My bad on the R#KEEP thing—I left out part of the link name! That's a bit embarrassing. The link should actually be WP:R#KEEP, which is Wikipedia's policy on reasons to not delete redirects. I specifically wanted to highlight reason 2, which states that redirects should be kept if "[t]hey would aid accidental linking and make the creation of duplicate articles less likely.... In other words, redirects with no incoming links are not candidates for deletion on those grounds because they are of benefit to the browsing user...." [click the link for the full text of that item]. Also, one of the other listed reasons is "Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful—this is not because the other person is being untruthful, but because you browse Wikipedia in different ways. stats.grok.se can also provide evidence of outside utility." I believe that's relevant too.
You're totally right in saying that the search bar is case-insensitive. However, wikilinks and links to here from external sites are most definitely case-sensitive. While those two articles currently don't have any incoming wikilinks from article space, we can't really say whether or not they will in the future. The whole purpose of redirects is to aid in navigation, and that's what this one is doing/will do. Also, Wikipedia:R#When should we delete a redirect? guides users to only "consider the deletion only of either really harmful redirects or of very recent ones".
I also declined your speedy deletion nominations because they didn't fall under the scope of the G6 criterion, which is pretty specific. Deletions like that require discussion. That said, I'm totally open to you nominating them for deletion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion. I hope this helps clear things up. Let me know if you have any more questions! — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 21:57, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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Welcome to the Education Program![edit]

Welcome to the program! I think the most satisfying thing is to work directly with professors to help design and lead assignments. Sometimes you might encounter professors who aren't willing to hear you out, other times they'll have open arms. I hope you have some rewarding experiences that end up touching many classrooms! Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 12:37, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

@Biosthmors: Thank you for the kind welcome, Biosthmors! (Such an interesting username, by the way!) I'm really excited to start working with the education program. I've already subscribed to the ambassador mailing list, filed out my ambassador profile and reviewed the training modules. Do you have any suggestions on getting involved with a course? Should I wait for a professor or student to contact me, or should I seek out a course to help with? Cheers! — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 17:59, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Funny you ask! I just set up a phone call with a professor just now from paying attention to the education noticeboard. There is one professor with a course on the noticeboard that sounds cool that no-one has gotten to. But I don't think you (until you're a regional ambassador) can assign the user right to professors, though. So.... hmmmmm.... I would email Jami and ask her to think of you when she's considering throwing regional ambassadors professors to interview on Skype. I typically just keep an eye out on Wikipedia for opportunities. Ah. I know. You can look through Special:Courses for classrooms that don't have online Ambassadors yet (other than Jami). I think you can see some of those at Special:Log/online. It's good you've signed up for the mailing list, though I don't think it's been active lately! There is a mailing list for the regional ambassadors is a bit more active. But WP:ENB is the central place, of course. So, here's the secret: you might email professors looking for ambassadors and then offer to help if they speak with you. That way you get your foot in the door, see what the prof. knows about Wikipedia, help them learn more, ask details about the assignment, see if you can get those details tweaked perhaps if the assignment isn't lined up to Wikipedia's norms. That's the secret. I think the best thing ambassadors can do is work with the instructors to design the course page. I'm making those kinds of edits right now. =) Best. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 18:16, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
But really it's whatever you make it. So maybe you'll find a niche to work in that I haven't even thought about. =) Best. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 18:48, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello nice Lady[edit]

See you are online and i would realy need some professional help. Would you pls so kind to have 5 minutes for me? kind regardsAdniim- (talk) 06:53, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

@Adniim: Hello, Adniim! What was it that you needed help with? cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 14:56, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
hi. thx for reply eaven if its to late now. but maybe you could help me anyway.

the is a one edit account witch got personal motivation to delet an article about a journalist and it also seams he got some friends helping him with that. maybe you would be so friendly and have a short objectiv look on this article. and help me a bit in the delet discussion - so far this seams to be not very friedly their and not very objectiv. Michel Von Tell — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adniim- (talkcontribs) 13:19, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


ah i saw you commented this. thank you. so i am not quite sure if you read everything in this mess :) allowed me to give you my arguments why this article should be keeped.

1 .Has been featured multiple times in notable mainstream media. MMnews (alexa rank 500 of germany), Russia today (after cnn biggest news tv of the word), paraguay television and some more. see in article.

2 Has had significant roles in multiple films, shows, or other productions. Films, audio books, shows, books, interviews, articles, big blogs etc see in article (witch was/is still under construction).

3 Has a large fan base.

It of course has! you see about 1 million views on YT. His politic dokumentation alone got about 100 000 views. and this is quite a lot if you keep in mind it is a documentary about geopolitics!! also it is SWITZERLAND - less people then NYC! and this 7 million people their got 4 diffent languages! finaly you see he had very much highly notable guests. and i also showed their the YT channel of the 2 biggest TV stations of the country. www.youtube.com/user/sfr/videos this the offical channel of the 2 biggest tv stations of switzerland SF1 SF2 Schweizer Fernsehen.

have a look at how many views they got and compare please!

and you also know - a single one of this 3 points would be good enough.

are this not quite many good arguments to keep this article? special if you keep in mind how small switzerland is, this article is just under construction? i mean hey. u know as good as me. 30% of Wikipedia got much less sources then this. would be nice if you could think about your voteing or let me know what exactly yor argument is. also i could show you hunderet of journalists witch are listed in wikipedia witch got WAY less sources and notablity then this article. here just some of them.

Osaremen ehi james Larry Izamoje Chief Olu Oyesanya Meir Javedanfar Óðinn Jónsson Juan Bautista Rivarola Matto Leopoldo Ramos Giménez Luis Ruffinelli Alfredo Seiferheld Adriano Irala Fulgencio R. Moreno Sali Nivica Ludmilla Pajo Bedri Pejani Skender Temali Mirko Gashi Mirshahin Agayev Aslan Aslanov Kurt Thyboe Monica Ritterband Henrik Qvortrup Hans Pilgaard

now tell me pls - why they are in and this article is not good enough? what is missing they got? would be nice if you could help me a bit. but anyway thank you for takeing time. Adniim- (talk) 15:23, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

@Adniim-: Hello, Adniim! I'm sorry it took me a while to get back to you--I've been sick. I appreciate that you're trying to prevent that article from being deleted, but it's really not a good idea to try to persuade editors on anywhere but the article's AfD page. It could be seen as canvassing, which is against Wikipedia's rules. cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 17:45, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thanks so much for the advice!!VSmith001 (talk) 18:35, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

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T: template redirects[edit]

Hi, you participated in Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 December 29#T:, some of which I have relisted at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 November_18#T:WPTECH. Please come along and share your thoughts .. ;-) John Vandenberg (chat) 15:40, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

November 2013 GOCE drive wrap-up[edit]

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Re: Substing templates[edit]

Meh, I remember when subst'ing wasn't an issue with the {{welcome}} template. If the people mucking around with the template, which worked well for years, can't keep their act together, I don't regard it as my problem. I sure as heck don't want n00bs running around thinking they need to subst every template by default after I set a bad example for them. No deal! -- Kendrick7talk 08:19, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

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Please comment on Talk:Hungarian passport[edit]

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GOCE December 2013 Blitz wrap-up and January Drive invitation[edit]

December Notes from the Guild of Copy Editors
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The December blitz ran from December 8–14. The theme for this blitz was articles tied in some way to religion. Seven editors knocked out 20 articles over the course of the week. Our next blitz will be in February, with a theme to be determined. Feel free to make theme suggestions at the Guild talk page!

The January 2014 Backlog elimination drive is a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on January 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on January 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to copy edit all articles tagged in October and November 2012 and complete all requests placed before the end of 2013. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits at least one article, and special awards will be given to the top five in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged in October and November 2012", and "Longest article". We hope to see you there!

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GOCE 2013 Annual Report[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors 2013 Annual Report
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The GOCE has wrapped up another successful year of operations!

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New User Seeking Assistance[edit]

Hello Cymru.lass

I am a new Wikipedia user and was looking for a mentor or volunteer to assist me. I am going to create two pages with my students this semester and I thought it would be helpful to have someone who can help guide us through the endeavor. I am a Ph.D. student at SUNY Buffalo and teaching communication courses. If you can help or point me to a resource for this type of course project I would appreciate it. Djgriffin7 (talk) 19:07, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Would you like to OA for a Molecular Biology course project?[edit]

Hi,

I and User:Keilana are OAs for a course project in Molecular Biology, taught at John Hopkins University for the upcoming Spring, 2014 semester. We ran the same course last semester, and you can check out the course page. I will be putting together the new course pages (two, one each for two sections) for the upcoming semester in the next couple of days.

We are wondering if you would be willing to help with this. Mostly, it involves hand-holding and answering questions for students who are new to Wikipedia. However, we also hope that you would be able to help review articles as they become mature, during the review cycles in units 9, 11, and 13. Here is an example review by Keilana.

Depending on how many other OAs we get, we'd be asking for commitment of between two - four reviews for each of those three cycles, and each might take about an hour.

Would you be able to help with this? If so, could you please let us know as soon as possible? Thanks! Klortho (talk) 03:51, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers[edit]

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Please comment on Template talk:Marriage[edit]

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GOCE February blitz wrapup[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Blitzes/February 2014 wrap-up
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Participation: Out of seven people who signed up for this blitz, all copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: During the seven-day blitz, we removed 16 articles from the requests queue. Hope to see you at the March drive! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Miniapolis and Baffle gab1978.

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March GOCE copyedit drive[edit]

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (people)[edit]

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GOCE March drive wrapup[edit]

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Participation: Thanks to all who participated in the drive and helped out behind the scenes. 42 people signed up for this drive and 28 of these completed at least one article. Final results are available here.

Progress report: Articles tagged during the target months of December 2012 and January 2013 were reduced from 177 to 33, and the overall backlog was reduced by 13 articles. The total backlog was 2,902 articles at the end of March. On the Requests page during March, 26 copy edit requests were completed, all requests from January 2014 were completed, and the length of the queue was reduced by 11 articles.

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