User talk:Kelpin/Archives/2007/August

July 2007

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. 156.34.212.120 11:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. 156.34.142.158 12:04, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Eagles and Don Henley

Rather than leaving me warnings on here about my edits to the above articles - please engage in the debate here [1] . I would much rather reach a consensus on this issue than engage in an edit war with you. Thank you. Kelpin 12:18, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Gggg whatever

I actually didn't place the block on the user, nor did I decline their block. I did try to interact with them to explain the username policy and whatnot. But I may contribute to the discussion anyway. Natalie 16:10, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

No problem! I'd rather have extra notification than no notification at all. Natalie 16:14, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Alex Lifeson

• It states on Alex Lifeson's page that he formed Rush in the summer of 1968. It also stated this in the very beginning of the Rush page where it says the band was formed in the summer of 1968 by Geddy Lee, Alex Lifeson, and John Rutsey. I changed that to the band was formed in summer of 1968 by Jeff Jones, Alex Lifeson, and John Rutsey, since Geddy Lee didn't join until September 1968. - 69.148.72.155 18:57, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

re: Rush

Instead of questioning a very clear edit summary, perhaps you should go back and read the Rush FA discussion process to find out which version was decided upon by concensus. I read all FA discussion pages before I edit them. Don't you? All editors should. Also... the editor who keeps re-adding the non-concensus text is an IP sock of User:Alterego269 who is permanently blocked from Wikipedia. Again... if you would just do your homework, you wouldn't have made the mistake of questioning my edit. 142.167.80.111 14:59, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

I will apologize for assuming that, since you have been here awhile, you would know that an FA is a featured article. It's such a basic and rooted part of what Wikipedia is I figured anyone who's made over 50 edits should know that. I had over 20000 edits as a logged user before I determined that usernames were completely useless and only good for those seeking administrator status(a nomination I declined more than a dozen times) I edit simply for encyclopedic quality and do not desire any personal "Wiki-fame". Wikipedia was built on the contributions of anonymous editors. As an IP editor I have amassed another 20000+ edits. My co-workers are also anon Wiki editors so it appears as though 1 editor has 40000+ edits. But they are shared among my co-workers and I. That being said, we've seen just about everything there is to see here. And Alterego269 edits are so easy to spot even for editors who've only seen a few of them. Tagging an IP sock is easy when the editor uses the same modus operandi. He will appear tomorrow with a different IP. Some of his edits are good, some aren't(like the Rush edit). Having been here for so long my AGF is stretched very thin and I reserve it for only a few who have earned it. Alterego269 has not done that although someday he may. He sometimes edits from a school IP so I expect he is just a teen-ager and has a lot to learn. If you need any help here feel free to ask me. I've been here as long as there's been a project to be here for. I have many Wiki-admin friends who can assist you if you require it. Good luck with your future contributions. And remember, be bold. 142.167.80.111 15:34, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:CIT is the link to Wikipedia's cite template page. All the citation templates are there for {cite web}, {cite book}, {cite video} etc. Hope that helps. 142.167.93.132 19:08, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Long Road out of Eden

I moved the page per naming conventions. The words "out of" shouldn't be capitalized. FMAFan1990 23:56, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

The naming conventions are at WP:NC#Album titles and band names. --PEJL 01:08, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Erm...

"Hi Scarian. I have made reference to your edit here [1] please don't take this as a personal attack. I've seen this kind of thing happen quite a lot recently with people editing articles on subjects they don't really know enough about - I picked yours because it was recent and on an article on my watchlist that was changed today so it came to mind first. May I suggest in future that you leave the edit or flag it with a note on the talk page? That way someone who has the article on their watchlist can check the edit. Thanks. Kelpin 16:48, 9 August 2007 (UTC)"

I don't think that was very fair of you... I mean, all I was doing was trying to do my job, buddy. I am actually quite offended. If I see a mistake, I'm quite obligated and within my right to attempt to correct it. And if I make a mistake whilst trying to do my job, no harm done. By the by, what I was originally doing in the first place was investigating possible vandalism from a repeat offender.

As to: "leave the edit or flag it" - No. That's wrong. You can't tell people to do that. From a philosophical point of view, no one learnt anything by not making mistakes. And from a Wikipedia point of view, you make me feel as though I'm not good enough to edit the Formula 1 articles. Assume good faith, my friend and you will be rewarded later on in [wiki] life (if you ever want to be an admin).

Please don't tell other user's what they can and cannot edit. It breaches the right's of the user's and Wikipedia's own tag-line: "...anyone can edit" [I've forgotten the tag line exactly but that still makes my point]. (Btw, sorry for the late reply, I only just read your message) Scarian^Talk 15:30, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Haha - [2], that feels like it happened so long ago. Buddy, I honestly didn't mean any nastiness from it... adding the {{fact}} tag seemed like an inventive sort of way to convey how I was feeling at the time. And you have to admit it was rather suspicious of the anon to say something like that. You were right not to say anything at the time and I was wrong to say anything like that. From that point I don't think I made another accusation of calling you a sock puppet so I don't understand: "I am well and truly fed up of the accusations." - Unless I have missed something? - It takes a hefty list of evidence to accuse someone of being a sockpuppet and, if anything, I purely said what I said for a comical effect (It may not have been funny for you). You seem like a nice person Kelpin and I really didn't mean to cause any trouble between us. Hooah. Take care. Scarian^Talk 18:19, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

I never knew you got blocked for being a sock. And from the brief story it sounds like the admin was a prick and wasn't doing his job right. I am also in the U.K., what county do you reside in? Scarian^Talk 18:37, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

South Bedfordshire. Do you live inside Birmingham or the littles towns and villages surrounding it? My cousin works for Aston Villa and lives just outside Birmingham in a little town beginning with 'T'... I can't remember what it's called. What do you work as? Scarian^Talk 18:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Wow, that's pretty cool. Work in Aston? Is Aston Villa a place aswell as a football club? Scarian^Talk 18:54, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Undoing Tom Golding

Hi, firstly, please don't use misleading edit summaries. You didn't undo my edit, it had already been undone. Also, it was vandalism, since it clearly said not to add it without a source, and he added it without a source. That's bad faith, mate.--Rambutan (talk) 17:03, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

I added it WITH a source and you've removed the source - make up your mind. Kelpin 17:29, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Kelpin, darling - if a note specifically and clearly says "don't add 'Tom Golding' without noting a source", and someone makes a conscious decision to go against that note, then it is not good faith. Surely you can see that? And, a "deliberate attempt to compromise Wikipedia's integrity" is vandalism (see here for the official definition). I'd be interested to hear your explanation of how ignoring seven polite and reasonable notes is good faith, though.--Rambutan (talk) 17:41, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

The warning on the page said "PLEASE DO NOT add Tom Golding playing "Lad" using IMDB as a source" the user who added Tom Golding as Lad didn't quote IMDB. He said in his edit summary "I have added Tom Golding again because he had a credited speaking part in the episode just as everyone else on the above cast list!" whilst that comment could be interpreted in different ways - when I saw it this morning I interpreted it as referring to the cast list on the BBC page, hence it wasn't vandalism and hence I didn't undo it. As you said above assume good faith. Kelpin 17:51, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, he didn't have a speaking part. He knew he shouldn't do what he did, and one doesn't AGF when it is obviously bad-faith. As for Bernard Cribbins - he's been rumoured (not confirmed) for an episode in S4, not just Voyage. I don't know what DWM's got to say, but if it has confirmation then someone will upload it. I said not to add it wihtout a reliable source, and that would be one!--Rambutan (talk) 18:24, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Cribbins, Bernard

Actually, OZOO has already done so. I'm following his lead. --Mark H Wilkinson ^{(t, c)} 18:44, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

No probls, it's all good. --Mark H Wilkinson ^{(t, c)} 18:48, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Spam

No problemo ;-) --Vonones 15:27, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Mayleaf

No problem, thanks for spotting it so quickly before it went out of control. You did the right thing taking it to WP:AN/I, the spam project (WP:WPSPAM) are excellent but rapid responses are sometimes needed. And thanks for helping clear out the spam. Neil ム 15:45, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, graduated in 2002. I'm actually going back to Selly Oak this weekend for a reunion ... small world! Neil ム 08:54, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply

I never edited a wiki page before and i cant see why this would have happened. I need to check the time of the edit again. This IP is not shared and this worries me. Its also Dynamic and only been active about 24 hours. Hmm. I may register. Thanks. 86.41.101.1 09:55, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Wait...wtf..the edit was in 2006?? Uh oh... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.41.101.1 (talk) 09:57, August 30, 2007 (UTC)