User talk:King of Hearts/Archive/2012/06

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Ashton[edit]

Thank you for the tactful phrasing "Deletion/userfication endorsed". Enough ambiguity there for everyone, even those of us who don't agree with all the things that phrase can mean. No reply needed. JJB 17:38, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Undeletion of Membership template[edit]

You need to undelete all of Wikipedia:International membership templates for me to fully demonstrate them. Some of the redlinks never existed (as they were partially cretaed). I can demonstrate with few country templates but it is best if I can show the combinations. Templates inter-depend on each other as well so core ones need to be undeleted or else there is nothing for me to demonstrate. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 11:59, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

I can work with these: Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 July 31#International Organization membership template. If you can undelete those (and the red linked Wikipedia namespace pages on Wikipedia:International membership templates), I think I can demonstrate some aspects. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 12:08, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 Done King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 23:03, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You still need to undelete the sub templates so red links disappear from Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 July 31#International Organization membership template. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 00:13, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 Done King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:20, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Also these. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 07:10, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Actually, never-mind. I think I have enough to demonstrate. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 08:56, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 04 June 2012[edit]

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Hammersoft[edit]

As one of the people involved in the dispute over whether or not a non-free image can be used at Kim Jong-un, do you agree with what I've written in the above page about Hammersoft's behaviour in his opposition to one? Does this match your perception of him? If so, would you be prepared to be co-certifier of that request for comment? Krolar62 (talk) 01:17, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe there's anything too improper with his behavior. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 07:39, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 11 June 2012[edit]

Deletion of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongoose_(server)[edit]

Hello, you've deleted an article about Mongoose web server, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongoose_(server)

The motivation was that the software has no indication of any long term historical notability. Let me disagree. The software is quite popular in embedded and gaming communities. An article in Linux Journal has been published about it, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/10680 . The popularity can be easily verified by the number of downloads: http://code.google.com/p/mongoose/downloads/list . Several thousands downloads a month, I assume, is a good indicator. The software has been actively maintained since 2004.

I would appreciate if you restore the article. I would be happy to improve the quality of the article, any suggestions are welcome!

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 9babba (talk • contribs) 14:10, June 15, 2012‎

The Linux Journal article is good, but the number of downloads is not a reliable indicator of notability. Can you find any other reliable sources that have have significant coverage of the Mongoose web server? -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 06:15, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Sure. For example, there is a big list of blog posts and tutorials about Mongoose. Simple Google search can reveal that. To show a few: 

  * http://weblambdazero.blogspot.ie/2012/04/mongoose-small-embeddable-web-server.html
  * http://hempeldesigngroup.com/embedded/stories/need-an-ultralight-webserver-you-need-mongoose
  * http://roksbox.com/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53&Itemid=54
  * https://github.com/angad/mongoose-android (mongoose port to Android platform)
  * http://blog.smarx.com/posts/tutorial-running-the-mongoose-web-server-in-windows-azure
  * http://twit88.com/blog/2011/08/16/mongooseeasy-to-use-web-server/
  * http://cawoodm.blogspot.ie/2011/08/mongoose-free-easy-web-server.html
  * http://www.yassh.com/yaSSL/Products_WebServer.html
  * http://benjisimon.blogspot.ie/2011/09/tool-of-day-mongoose-ultra-lightweight.html

There are many, many more, I'd refrain from copy-pasting lots of links here.

Most convincing evidence is this: http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/third_party/mongoose : Mongoose is part of Chromium, Google's browser. I believe neither Chromium nor Google require any introduction.

Thank you for your consideration! 9babba (talk)

Blogs do not qualify as reliable sources. Most of the others do not offer significant coverage of the topic. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 07:36, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks!

However I fail to see how Mongoose is less notable than other webservers mentioned in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_lightweight_web_servers. For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiawatha_webserver , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLone_(web_server), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NanoHTTPD , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tntnet . These are toys, on the other hand Mongoose has massive commercial and open-source use, mainly in embedded, mobile and gaming worlds. Would you consider removing aforementioned servers from the wiki page too?

What sources are considered as notable? Can you point out what is more notable on e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiawatha_webserver page in contrast with the references I have provided for Mongoose?

Thank you for your time! -- 9babba (talk)

Just because the articles exist doesn't meet that they're notable (see WP:OSE). In fact, if you don't think they are notable, then go ahead and nominate them for deletion. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 23:17, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 18 June 2012[edit]

The Signpost: 25 June 2012[edit]

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