User talk:Nofrillz

Welcome[edit]

Welcome!

Hello, Nofrillz, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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RE: Marty Robbins[edit]

Hola!

You might want to look at the Help section on adding books, citing sources, etc.

Here is what you put in External links:

* Marty Robbins: Fast Cars and Country Music

I moved it to Sources, and did it like this:

* Pruett, Barbara J. "Marty Robbins: Fast Cars and Country Music". Metuchen, N.J.: Scarecrow Press. 1991. ISBN 0-8108-2325-X

Mucho nicer....

Carry on,

WikiDon 22:05, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Versions[edit]

Okay, I get the idea that you work for Scarecrow Press, and are only here to sell books you are currently publishing. This is a violation of Wikipedia policy, but, if you only add quality value-added material, I won't say anything if you won't. That said:

If you are going to add books, try to click on the ISBN search feature after you have put in the ISBN number. I always like to use books that are listed at WorldCat (See also: http://worldcat.org/advancedsearch) (I also like the Library of Congress online catalog http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First; but they take some time to get books into their system.) Then I usually check some of the big online sellers, Amazon, B&N, etc., to make sure they are there.

So, my Tip-'O-the-Day is:

Have your book listed first at WorldCat, then post it here.

Carry on, I'll be in the area through out the day,

WikiDon 15:23, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How to Cite Sources in an article[edit]

Nofrillz,

Please read:

Wikipedia:Citing sources and also Wikipedia:Citing sources/example style

You need to work on how you add information to Wikipedia.

I think you are doing great, but you have to figure out what an encyclopedia is, and what it is not.

1) Don't "own" these articles. Contribute and don't get attached to them. You'll be happier.
2) If you want to contribute more editorial prose style, this is NOT the place.
3) In an encyclopedia we do not say things like:

The Nile is a lovely river in Africa.

This is editorial prose.

We say:

The Nile is a river in Africa.

While "lovely" maybe 100% accurate, is it really encyclopedic? You may write information that is 100% accurate, and is good material, but does not belong here, in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedias, are BLACK and WHITE (for the most part). It is not Live Planet, or something close to that.

A lot of people mis-understand what is needed here, including myself. I have to continuely check myself from editorializing and interjecting my own thoughts into my contributions, and still things seem to slip through. But, I do better if I give up "ownership" of the article, I don't take it to heart, don't take it personally. If I can stay back and remain objective, I seem to do a lot better at keeping "waffle words" out.

SEE: Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles (This is a good one!)

I know that I am a better encyclopedia editor now, than I was when I first started here, in May of 2004. But I know that I can still improve even more than what I have done so far. The amount of information that I DON'T know keeps growing faster than the list of what I DO know.

Thanks, keep up the good work, improve, but keep it up.

WikiDon 17:15, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]