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You IBAN me, I'm gone. Lightbreather is using the system to remove people she perceives as being "opponents", which is basically anyone who ever disagrees with her. This has been discussed at ANI, I'm sure, and is a consistent feature of her communications. I've seen it happening at a swathe of articles that I've had no involvement in, and one recent example where I have had involvement (I generally try to ignore her). I suggest you do some digging around, Roger. - Sitush (talk) 17:45, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm already aware of the background (and of the tactic). However, I don't have the evidence to justify making it unilateral.  Roger Davies talk 18:00, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
You do not have to make it unilateral. Do nothing and she will either reform or hang herself. She is fine with me as long as I agree with her, which says it all really. How many more IBANs, topic bans etc it will take is anyone's guess but there is some serious collateral damage going to happen if I am subjected to it, and the project will gain not a lot in return.
Did you see this or the recent accusations of socking being thrown around at Talk:Nazi gun control theory? Talk about leaving no stone unturned to get one's way ... - Sitush (talk) 18:11, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
I did see it. The only way the committee can act here though is if someone brings a well-researched and well-documented request for a case. Otherwise, it has to be handled piecemeal at WP:AE or WP:AN.  Roger Davies talk 18:16, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Can a case be brought on the basis of a pattern of misconduct, or does there need to be a catalyst action as the basis for the complaint? Karanacs (talk) 18:35, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
A triggering recent action, representative of an established pattern is a common route.  Roger Davies talk 18:40, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I'm not the person to bring a case. In fact, I can't because there is some mingling with another ill-considered IBAN that was put in place during the GGTF case. However, doing things piecemeal is not the answer, especially when it causes collateral damage way beyond the very limited scope of interaction. I'm not indispensable, of course, but when the laws are allowed to trample over morals then it is time to call it a day.
Despite the numerous contributors from India and Pakistan who have been frustrated by me, you'll find far more regulars here who appreciate what I do than you will find contributors who appreciate what LB does. I don't comment on her talk page, I don't comment at every AN/ANI thread etc that pops up, nor every thread at DR or RSN or whatever other centralised discussions she visits. Of late, I've been involved in, I think, one article where she has been a contributor and you only have to look at the history of that to see that I'm not the problem there. You want to use a hammer to crack a nut? Find a different nut. - Sitush (talk) 18:36, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
In your situation, an iBan would probably be protective,  Roger Davies talk 18:40, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
What makes you think I cannot protect myself? Why do you think I've not been involved in a lot of stuff, as noted above? (And probably a lot more that I haven't seen - I only have some centralised discussions watchlisted.) I'm not being turned into some sort of scapegoat just because the community can't get a grip on the real problem. - Sitush (talk) 18:47, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
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Did you know ... that a church's 1510 spiral of justice declares: "Justice suffered in great need. Truth is slain dead. Faith has lost the battle"?
The poem ends with "Praise the right thing (decency, integrity)".
I am known for seemingly unrelated comments. Sitush: scapegoats seem to be needed, you are in good company, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
ps: Sitush, I don't know how you feel about me as company. I have not been guilty of 3RR ever, but am restricted as a "warrior" (more severely at present than anybody else in the infoboxes case), restricted to not add an infobox to Ray Barra (link off the Main page) because I didn't create the article, only wrote 90+% of its content. Kafkaesque. The restriction relies on an ownership concept (or call it "Main editor" or whatever euphemism seems sweeter) and should therefore simply be invalid. I dream of a day when the readers may decide, not the elite FA editors, if they want to see an infobox or not. The means to opt it out are there. - Yes, I am a warrior: I fight the notion that "live editing of featured article may not be such a good idea". I wrote some. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
ps: Ray Barry solved, - sad about the death of another legend, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:26, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

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