Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Ashes
Ashes[edit]
All tracks are written by Josh Woodward
| No. | Title | File | Length |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1. | "Let It In" | 4:01 | |
| 2. | "Cherubs" | 4:16 | |
| 3. | "Infinite Horizon" | 2:43 | |
| 4. | "A Thousand Skins (Part 2)" | 3:21 | |
| 5. | "The Handyman's Lament" | 3:50 | |
| 6. | "Anchor" | 3:26 | |
| 7. | "Already There" | 3:41 | |
| 8. | "Together on Our Own" | 4:56 | |
| 9. | "Pompeii" | 3:36 | |
| 10. | "Swimming in Turpentine" | 3:22 | |
| 11. | "A Thousand Skins (Part 1)" | 6:29 | |
| 12. | "Motionless Land" | 3:31 | |
| Total length: | 47:09 | ||
Myself and others got very excited when the whole of Pulse of the Earth was nominated for featured sound status, but, hopefully, it is to be the first of many. I now bring you Ashes, by Josh Woodward. I had never previously heard of Woodward, but he is a big name in the world of Creative Commons-licensed music, and has released all of his albums under Wikipedia compatible licenses. I have also discovered Jamendo, a website for musicians releasing their music under CC licenses. Now, not all of those musicians will be notable, and not all of those licenses are Wikipedia compatible, but this could be a real goldmine for the featured sound project. At the very least, we have the rest of Woodward's albums to look forward to. J Milburn (talk) 02:19, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Comment -- Nice find, and I don't have a problem with the files, per se, rather the related articles. I don't want to begin an AFD discussion here, but I've just read Wikipedia:Notability (music) and Josh Woodward doesn't indicate any notability for Josh Woodward. Of the 6 sources, half are to his own website, one shows he participated in Song Fight! (does that mean he's notable?), one is a reader-submitted article, and the last is offline. For Ashes (Josh Woodward album), there isn't even one ref to indicate why the album is notable in accordance with WP:NALBUMS. I appreciate your attempt to search out more files of this type, but there seems little point in promoting a series of sound files for articles that appear as if they could be CSD#A7/A9ed at any moment. If the articles were expanded I could support, but right now I can't. (Not that I'm opposing at the moment either, though.) Matthewedwards : Chat 03:47, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- Perfectly reasonable. I will note, however, that if the artist is notable, his albums can effectively be considered to be notable. I will look into this. J Milburn (talk) 12:59, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- I've rewritten the article, trying to base it on the reliable sources I could find. He's also featured on a notable show on national radio. I think he's notable, but borderline; if you aren't convinced, nominate it for deletion (I won't be offended!) J Milburn (talk) 17:30, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- I wouldn't nominate the artist for deletion, because it has three-ish sources, but I question as to whether or not the albums are notable. Ashes has no third party sources, which means that unless we find some coverage on it, it fails WP:NALBUMS and WP:GNG. I'll search for some sources when I get the chance, but until the album meets all the requirements, we can't be sure that the sounds will have a home, something that the criteria require. That, or at the very least we can have them in the artist's page for the time being. Sven Manguard Wha? 07:38, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps we could merge the album pages, and add all the covers and sounds to the newly formed list. J Milburn (talk) 11:49, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
- That works. Also, on the matter of this artist, the song already at his page, which got featured on the Ubuntu 10.10 release, would help with the notability of the artist, assuming we can find a good source for it. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:24, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps we could merge the album pages, and add all the covers and sounds to the newly formed list. J Milburn (talk) 11:49, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
- I wouldn't nominate the artist for deletion, because it has three-ish sources, but I question as to whether or not the albums are notable. Ashes has no third party sources, which means that unless we find some coverage on it, it fails WP:NALBUMS and WP:GNG. I'll search for some sources when I get the chance, but until the album meets all the requirements, we can't be sure that the sounds will have a home, something that the criteria require. That, or at the very least we can have them in the artist's page for the time being. Sven Manguard Wha? 07:38, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
- I've rewritten the article, trying to base it on the reliable sources I could find. He's also featured on a notable show on national radio. I think he's notable, but borderline; if you aren't convinced, nominate it for deletion (I won't be offended!) J Milburn (talk) 17:30, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- It pains me to kill close this one, but at this time, the host article isn't stable. Once it gets a few good sources, we can revisit this. In the mean time, I am about to nominate Swansong, also by the same artist, as that one seems to make the cut, being released with Ubuntu 10.10 and all. Sven Manguard Wha? 02:56, 23 January 2011 (UTC)