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The opposite of Woodstock?[edit]
What was the name of that rock festival in California which happened soon after Woodstock and at which there were a lot of brawls and one guy got killed? 10:43, 25 July 2023 (UTC) 2601:646:9882:46E0:4CE6:2E89:F4A5:404A (talk) 10:43, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
- I assume you're looking for Altamont Free Concert. --Wrongfilter (talk) 11:24, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's the one I was thinking about! That's because I've recently read about the 1980 Tbilisi rock festival and heard it called the "Russian Woodstock" -- but when I've read more about it, I thought it was more like Altamont than Woodstock, with knife fights in the audience (although admittedly non-fatal), equipment breakdowns and drunken disorderly conduct from some of the band members (notably Martin Browns of "Sipoli" and Boris Grebenschikov of "Aquarium", the latter band having been disqualified outright as a result)! 2601:646:9882:46E0:60AF:5081:D53D:5559 (talk) 03:39, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
- Oh, and a follow-up question: were the Aces of Cups scheduled to perform at Altamont, and if so, did they actually play anything, or did they cancel their entire set when their lead singer got hit in the head with a beer bottle? 2601:646:9882:46E0:583C:9E38:AA7E:C4C0 (talk) 06:58, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
- It seems like The Ace of Cups stopped their heavy touring and performing schedule in October, 1969, two months before the Altamont debacle, although they stuck together for a few more years. Denise Jewkes Kaufman of that band, who was pregnant at the time, attended the concert with her husband as fans not performers, and they took a picnic lunch. She was hit in the head by a large thrown beer bottle, causing a serious injury that required surgery. My source is a book called Just a Shot Away: Peace, Love, and Tragedy with the Rolling Stones at Altamont. Personal disclosure: I had seen the Rolling Stones perform on the same tour, in Detroit on November 24, 1969, two weeks before Altamont. I was 17 years old back then. Cullen328 (talk) 07:36, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
- This is confirmed by this blog post, which lists all Ace of Cups performances, the last of 1969 listed on 11 October. --Wrongfilter (talk) 07:48, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
- It seems like The Ace of Cups stopped their heavy touring and performing schedule in October, 1969, two months before the Altamont debacle, although they stuck together for a few more years. Denise Jewkes Kaufman of that band, who was pregnant at the time, attended the concert with her husband as fans not performers, and they took a picnic lunch. She was hit in the head by a large thrown beer bottle, causing a serious injury that required surgery. My source is a book called Just a Shot Away: Peace, Love, and Tragedy with the Rolling Stones at Altamont. Personal disclosure: I had seen the Rolling Stones perform on the same tour, in Detroit on November 24, 1969, two weeks before Altamont. I was 17 years old back then. Cullen328 (talk) 07:36, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
- Oh, and a follow-up question: were the Aces of Cups scheduled to perform at Altamont, and if so, did they actually play anything, or did they cancel their entire set when their lead singer got hit in the head with a beer bottle? 2601:646:9882:46E0:583C:9E38:AA7E:C4C0 (talk) 06:58, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's the one I was thinking about! That's because I've recently read about the 1980 Tbilisi rock festival and heard it called the "Russian Woodstock" -- but when I've read more about it, I thought it was more like Altamont than Woodstock, with knife fights in the audience (although admittedly non-fatal), equipment breakdowns and drunken disorderly conduct from some of the band members (notably Martin Browns of "Sipoli" and Boris Grebenschikov of "Aquarium", the latter band having been disqualified outright as a result)! 2601:646:9882:46E0:60AF:5081:D53D:5559 (talk) 03:39, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
Recent video game needs information about its creation and developer[edit]
An article I've written, Only Up!, is missing information about its developer, SCKR Games. I've tried using the custom video game search engine and found nothing. I've tried filtering out results using the regular Google search engine, but nothing pops up.
The only information I have is that they're an independent game studio based in South Korea with an official Twitter account. The same can be said for the concept: I've seen many sources state that the game was inspired by "Jack and the Beanstalk", one source even says the developers confirmed it.
Video game newspapers haven't really helped me, either. They usually write about how popular the game was and give basic information about the game itself.
If there are no sources, how long do I have to wait until new information pops up? Thanks, TarantulaTM (speak with me) (my legacy) 16:59, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
- As long as it takes for that to happen – Reliable sources will write about the developer when they choose to, and (probably) nothing that you or I can do will influence that. Our essay WP:Too soon might be of interest.
- The article seems mostly well written and well referenced, so it's not in danger of deletion or 'draftification' merely because these additional facts aren't (yet) in it. No Wikipedia article is ever 'finished', they are all works in progress, because further relevant facts might always be found in already-published sources, or may in the future be discovered for the first time and published in them.
- Meanwhile, further improvements are possible. For example, the lede paragraph (which strictly should only summarise what is contained and cited in the rest of the article) currently states "The game . . . was massively involved in the speedrunning community". This is not cited in situ, nor does it appear elsewhere in the text, and a 'peacock' term like "massively" should really only be used if it's part of a direct quote in a cited source. Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.198.140.169 (talk) 04:10, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
- Guess my answers will have to wait. Also, I removed that part completely from the article, as I was unable to find a reliable source to back that up. TarantulaTM (speak with me) (my legacy) 05:09, 27 July 2023 (UTC)