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February 23[edit]
Your reference to Paczki Day[edit]
It is not Fat Thursday, it's "Fat Tuesday"..please correct.
2601:406:8002:C670:B576:CC26:5C51:91D7 (talk) 06:29, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- Fat Tuesday is next week.
- Fat Thursday is today. (Depending on your timezone.)
- The mainpage holiday list is correct. ApLundell (talk) 06:39, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- Curiously, as this is the English Wikipedia, our article isn't called Shrove Tuesday which is the English name for it. Alansplodge (talk) 13:09, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- I believe you mean an English name for it. There are multiple varieties of English, and the particular one you learned as a child is not the only one there is. --Jayron32 13:11, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- Our article on Shrove Tuesday is alive and well. 86.185.150.124 (talk) 15:59, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- As is Mardi Gras. --Jayron32 17:27, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- Apologies all, I missed the wikilink in the lead paragraph. Morning isn't my best time (but Mardi Gras is still French and not English). Alansplodge (talk) 17:46, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- EO considers "Mardi Gras" to be English, "from French".[1] ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:46, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- In some of the varieties of English spoken in some places in the world, Mardi Gras is as English as the words croissant, bouquet, aubergine, dossier, etc. Again, Alansplodge, merely because a word is used in a dialect of English that is not spoken where you happen to have lived, doesn't make it invalid. The world is a bigger place than your personal experiences. --Jayron32 19:06, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- Where I come from, everyone knows what Mardi Gras is, and if you said Shrove Tuesday the odds are good you'd have to translate. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:15, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- The Shrove Tuesday Casino. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 20:45, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
- Where I come from, everyone knows what Mardi Gras is, and if you said Shrove Tuesday the odds are good you'd have to translate. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:15, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- Apologies all, I missed the wikilink in the lead paragraph. Morning isn't my best time (but Mardi Gras is still French and not English). Alansplodge (talk) 17:46, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- As is Mardi Gras. --Jayron32 17:27, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- Our article on Shrove Tuesday is alive and well. 86.185.150.124 (talk) 15:59, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- I believe you mean an English name for it. There are multiple varieties of English, and the particular one you learned as a child is not the only one there is. --Jayron32 13:11, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- Curiously, as this is the English Wikipedia, our article isn't called Shrove Tuesday which is the English name for it. Alansplodge (talk) 13:09, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- Paczki Day refers to Fat Tuesday aka Shrove Tuesday. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:48, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- And that name comes from Pączki, a Polish pastry typically prepared on Fat Tuesday. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:18, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- Your first claim, definitive and unqualified as it is, is quite questionable since the second article you linked to says Paczki Day can refer to either Fat Thursday or Fat Tuesday/Mardi Gras/Shrove Tuesday (alphabetical order). Some places (well at least one) even celebrate both as Paczki Day. And it's said this since before you linked to it, I know because I noticed this before most of this discussion (only ApL had replied). To be fair, I didn't notice that our article Paczki Day redirected to Shrove Tuesday, now changed. And I have now added a reference to Pączki to assuage any doubts over Chicago. P.S. I don't think semantic debates over whether Paczki Day and Pączki Day are helpful, particularly since both include the key word "day". Nil Einne (talk) 02:38, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- As long as the OP's question is addressed, all is well. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:35, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- It seemed to be addressed with ApL's reply, hence why I didn't say anything until you made an unsupported claimed which further confused the situation. Note that AFAICT, the main page never referred Paczki Day, again I checked this when only ApL had replied. Hence what Paczki Day refers to is probably irrelevant to the OP's question. Nil Einne (talk) 14:24, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- I went with what Wikipedia had. If you consider that unsupported, so be it. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:17, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- It seemed to be addressed with ApL's reply, hence why I didn't say anything until you made an unsupported claimed which further confused the situation. Note that AFAICT, the main page never referred Paczki Day, again I checked this when only ApL had replied. Hence what Paczki Day refers to is probably irrelevant to the OP's question. Nil Einne (talk) 14:24, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- As long as the OP's question is addressed, all is well. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:35, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- Your first claim, definitive and unqualified as it is, is quite questionable since the second article you linked to says Paczki Day can refer to either Fat Thursday or Fat Tuesday/Mardi Gras/Shrove Tuesday (alphabetical order). Some places (well at least one) even celebrate both as Paczki Day. And it's said this since before you linked to it, I know because I noticed this before most of this discussion (only ApL had replied). To be fair, I didn't notice that our article Paczki Day redirected to Shrove Tuesday, now changed. And I have now added a reference to Pączki to assuage any doubts over Chicago. P.S. I don't think semantic debates over whether Paczki Day and Pączki Day are helpful, particularly since both include the key word "day". Nil Einne (talk) 02:38, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- And that name comes from Pączki, a Polish pastry typically prepared on Fat Tuesday. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:18, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- In America, every day is a fat day. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:52, 25 February 2017 (UTC)