Wikipedia talk:Record charts

EFE lists

I noticed that on articles like Causa y Efecto, charts published by EFE are being used. I looked at the sources and the charts on some countries (like the U.S. and Argentina) are sourced to come from reliable sources such as billboard but other countries (Mexico, Costa Rica, etc.) lists are sourced to come from unreliable sources like Mixup, Los 40 Principales, and other single network radio stations. Since some of the charts are official then the source is not completely unreliable but since some charts are coming from single radio stations or vendors, then we should exclude using the source for those countries that don't have official charts credited. FanDePopLatino (talk) 14:44, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Suriname

This chart is being used in numerous articles for Suriname. According to website's about us page, the chart is based on radio airplay and "social media trends". Is this considered a legitimate or notable chart? Cool Marc ✉ 09:03, 1 June 2024 (UTC) I am assuming no? I could not find any reliable sources reporting about this chart. The methodology is unclear. Radio airplay could be based on just on 1 radio station, and inclusion of "social media trends" which is real time data suggests to me this is not a legitimate chart. Cool Marc ✉ 11:25, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Billboard and retroactive chart history

Hi there, got a quick question about Billboard's country charts. In 2012, Billboard changed the methodology of their Hot Country Songs chart, which since 1990 had been based on country radio airplay alone, to now use all-format airplay plus sales and streaming data. At the same time they launched a second chart, Country Airplay, which used country radio airplay alone. However, they apparently retroactively declared that all HCS history since 1990 now counted as history of both charts. This has led to them saying this week that Kenny Chesney "has had a record 33 number ones on Country Airplay", a figure which includes HCS number ones prior to 2012. My feeling is that this wording is not truly correct, as he hasn't had 33 number ones on a chart which was published under that title, some of them were on HCS, which still exists as a separate chart to CA, and they have essentially declared that songs which at the time of publication topped one chart are now considered to have topped two. I prefer to use the slightly vaguer wording "a record 33 number ones based on country radio plays". What are other people's thoughts on this.....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

@ChrisTheDude: Apologies for the late reply as this was last month, but maybe some sort of wording added specifying the number ones were achieved on Billboard charts would help there too? As historically there have been other country charts published by other publications, even if no others (that I'm aware of) still survive. Or maybe an explanatory footnote in cases like this (as there can't be that many exceptions of artists having achieved number ones on the pre-2012 Country chart and post-2012 Country Airplay) stating that Billboard changed the chart? Ss112 19:52, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

I have also seen the chart sections of album articles include rows for "Billboard 200", "Top Albums Sales", and "Top Current Albums", all with the same peak position because the Billboard site lists them as such even though the latter two didn't exist until methodology changes were made to the Billboard 200 and to maintain the previous methodology the newer charts were created. For example, I just removed both from I'm Telling You for the Last Time since there was only the Billboard 200 at the time although historically it measured sales in the same method of the others then. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 19:30, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Country Aircheck

Is Country Aircheck a reliable source for archival of the Mediabase country music charts? I often see Mediabase/Country Aircheck positions brought up in publicity on country music singers (for instance, the current publicity of "She's Somebody's Daughter" being the first self-released #1 to top the country charts; it got to #1 on Mediabase, but only #3 on Billboard Country Airplay). The Mediabase/Country Aircheck charts are also used on Country Top 40 with Fitz, so there does seem to be a significant degree of industry acceptance for their use. Tagging @Caldorwards4:, @Martin4647:, @ChrisTofu11961:, @Ss112:, @Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars: for feedback. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 19:19, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Hungary's Editors' Choice Top 40 chart

This chart is listed among the deprecated charts stating that "this is a critic's list, not a reflection of sales or airplay". I think whoever wrote this possibly only assumed it from the chart's name and didn't take the time to look into it properly, or got the wrong information from somewhere. I'm from Hungary and this chart in fact was always an airplay chart and it was never a critic's list. At the bottom of this page (https://slagerlistak.hu/editors-choice-top-40-slagerlista) there is an explanation in Hungarian about how this airplay chart works and what's the difference between the "Rádiós Top 40" airplay chart and this one. "Rádiós Top 40" is based on audience impression, so the bigger a radio station the bigger the influence it has on the chart. The "Editors' Choice Top 40" airplay chart measures spins from all the stations without taking into consideration the reach of the radio stations. It is similar how in the USA there's Radio Songs chart with audience impression stats and the Pop Airplay chart with spins only. I would like to suggest that this chart should be eligible to use, but only when a song couldn't enter the "Rádiós Top 40" chart, as I believe that should be considered as the main one. What are your thoughts about this? Thanks for taking the time reading my suggestion Kirtap92 (talk) 09:20, 15 September 2024 (UTC)