Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Composers
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- 1 Felix Mendelssohn
- 2 Lists of composers
- 3 Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
- 4 Solfeggietto and Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach
- 5 BBC composer template
- 6 Please note that there has been a consensus for this particular WikiProject that the use of biographical infoboxes is counter-productive for composer biographies, and should not be used.
An editor is insistent on including in Felix Mendelssohn the section 'Ancestry', a table which they have inserted at the end of the article before the notes and references. This lists three generations for Mendelssohn's ancestors (where known) and is not sourced or referenced. The more significant of these ancestors are anyway mentioned in the article. A number of others a red linked, although it is not clear whether the editor concerned is going to create articles for them, or whether indeed there is any claim for them to be they are WP:NOTABLE in their own right. In any case, there already references in the article to the existing articles Mendelssohn family and Itzig family (the families of Felix's parents). As table is both superfluous in itself, and serves no purpose in the article, I am in favour of removing it, but would welcome the opinions of other editors. Thanks, --Smerus (talk) 17:31, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Lists of composers
I just included the two most recent composers from the project page in the List of composers by name. Please add there and in lists by period when you create an article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:55, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Solfeggietto and Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach
Okay, a little late on this, but on 14 September I proposed Solfeggietto be merged into Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach. I put notices on the pages and even notified the creator of the former, but forgot to notify Wikiprojects! Anyway, feedback welcome. Eman235/talk 23:58, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
BBC composer template
I have created a new template, for linking to BBC composer pages. Please see Template talk:BBC composer page#Declaration of interest, and template rollout. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:24, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Please note that there has been a consensus for this particular WikiProject that the use of biographical infoboxes is counter-productive for composer biographies, and should not be used.
Is this still the current consensus of people following/supporting this project? Both regarding composers and conductors?
The above statement was added in April 2007 by a user who has not (unless he/she - but I somehow think it sounds like a he - changed his wiki-name) contributed to English language wikipedia since September 2010. I know nothing about how or where the "current consensus" in question was obtained.
My own position is that it this not the most important thing in Wikipedia by a long shot. And yet ... it still strikes me as a bit odd that whereas biographical entries of most people justifying a wiki entry acquire infoboxes as the entries build quantity and (one hopes) quality, those involving "classical" musicians do not.
Taking a conductor at random (except there was a feature on him on British television yesterday) Herbert von Karajan gets an infobox in French wiki and Dutch wiki, but not in German wiki or Italian wiki. Or English wiki. I think I find the francophone and Dutch entries slightly more informative because they have infoboxes (but that's partly a comment on my lousy understanding of Dutch). Richard Wagner gets an infobox in Dutch and French wikis. Otherwise not. Jean-Baptiste Lully gets one in French and ... that's it. Which seems to be the pattern with quite a lot of slightly less well known classical musicians.
- Here be dragons. You may wish to refer to Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music/Major discussions and arbitration case, and especially to the pages listed in its Arbitration 2013 section. The current position is documented at Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music/Guidelines#Biographical infoboxes. --Stfg (talk) 18:50, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, there was an entire and very nasty arbcom decision that specifically said the opposite - that the project cannot dictate use of infoboxes, but that they are to be determined for every article on a case by case basis. Please, let's not crank all this up again! Montanabw(talk) 19:41, 7 December 2014 (UTC)