Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/archive May 2004
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See also:
- Gayanashagowa - possible copyright infringement
- Olusegun Obasanjo -- Apparent copyright violation. -- Infrogmation 21:13 Apr 23, 2003 (UTC)~
- Studiolink - advertising disguised as an article. -- Zoe
- I'll second that, naturally. -- John Owens 23:40 Apr 25, 2003 (UTC)
- I . . . em . . . third (?) it. naturally! ÉÍREman 23:58 Apr 25, 2003 (UTC)
- I think the article was well-intended, just worded wrong to sound like an advert. LittleDan 02:36 Apr 26, 2003 (UTC)
- This business is completely obscure. It's like writing an article about an individual who has not acheived any kind of fame. An encyclopedia cannot possibly contain information about every business and person in the world. I say delete it. kpearce
- Image:Cassandra Princess of Troy.doc - Orphaned word doc with no info in it. -- Minesweeper 03:03 Apr 26, 2003 (UTC)
- Image:Philo.doc, Image:Résumé anglais.doc - More orphaned word docs. -- Minesweeper 03:03 Apr 26, 2003 (UTC)
- Valentinius - Copyright doubted, see also Talk:Valentinius. -- Jörgen Nixdorf
- Henks Comparative Sacred Reading - This is a personal project, not likely to become an article ever -- User:Pweemeeuw
It's a bit hard to assess the consensus here. I'm going to put an X next to all the articles that apparently by consensus don't need to be deleted, and can be removed from the list without anyone complaining. Can the contributors involved in this debate edit my markings please? If there's any active debate on on the entry, leave the X off. Please don't just change the marks to indicate your POV. -- Tim Starling 04:09 Apr 28, 2003 (UTC)
Unless there is a stub (or a beautiful article) on them of course could you please delete
- X Agroecology
- X Rural lifestyle
- X Urban economy
- X Greywater
- X Product lifecycle
- X Toxic waste
- Geophysiology
- X Public opinion
- X Biodegradable
- X waste
- X waste water
- X industrial waste
- Gaea Theories
- X chemical waste
- Nitrogen balance method
- farming practices
- X Protein engineering
- X Genetically modified food
- Integrated fertilizer management
- X Conservation agriculture
- Farming system
- Natural order
- X Value of life
- (User:Anthere added those) Apart from biodegradable and Gaea Theories (which redirect to alternative spellings/forms of the title) and Conservation agriculture (which is a decent stub), I tend to agree that these can be deleted (they were redirects to non-equivalent things, like waste redirecting to sewage treatment, which doesn't seem appropriate to me). That's pending more stubs being made at these titles, of course. --Camembert 19:27 Apr 26, 2003 (UTC)
- (later) Looking at Gaea Theories again, it's not clear whether it should redirect to Gaia Theory or Gaia theory, it is an orphan (apart from a user page) and gets exactly no hits on Google, so I think that could be deleted as well without any practical loss (not that I'm mad enough to really care about it, though). --Camembert 19:33 Apr 26, 2003 (UTC)
- There are not such things as Gaia Theories (or Gaea Theories). There is "one" Theory, and several theories (here in singular in the article for the sake of convention). Gaia Theories is a nono, for either redirections to theory (because of the big T) and Theory (because of the plural) would be wrong. It is then logical there are no hits on google. Why keeping a page on a title which gets no hit, and for which redirections would be trouble ? As you mentionned, these pages will never be linked as they are "wrong". It will likely stay linked to only *one* user page. So, there is no point except trouble to keep them. User:anthere
- I've made Gaea Theories into a disambiguation page - please keep it. Martin 01:19 Apr 27, 2003 (UTC)
- There is nothing to disambiguate. And this page is linked by no other page than budda's page
- I've made Gaea Theories into a disambiguation page - please keep it. Martin 01:19 Apr 27, 2003 (UTC)
- There are not such things as Gaia Theories (or Gaea Theories). There is "one" Theory, and several theories (here in singular in the article for the sake of convention). Gaia Theories is a nono, for either redirections to theory (because of the big T) and Theory (because of the plural) would be wrong. It is then logical there are no hits on google. Why keeping a page on a title which gets no hit, and for which redirections would be trouble ? As you mentionned, these pages will never be linked as they are "wrong". It will likely stay linked to only *one* user page. So, there is no point except trouble to keep them. User:anthere
- I disagree. We can put a stub for them in some time. -- Taku 19:51 Apr 26, 2003 (UTC)
- thanks for your stubs Taku. anthere
- As I said, of course they shouldn't be deleted if they're made into stubs - the pages should be left here for a week in any case before deletion, so we'll see what happens to them in that time. But if they're still blank or inappropriate redirects at the end of that time, they should go (in my opinion). --Camembert 23:23 Apr 26, 2003 (UTC)
- perfectly suit me. If there are stubs, good. No stub, please delete. It is better to see an empty link than a blank page, and better an empty link that a bad redirection which will kill people desire to fill the page anthere
- greywater and waste water look like valid redirects to wastewater - please keep. Martin 12:06 Apr 27, 2003 (UTC)
- value of life stubbed
- Image:Carcinogen.jpg should go, because it is probably not what it says, and also it is duplicated. See image for full story. -- Egil 10:27 Apr 27, 2003 (UTC)
- Let's not get into a biology discussion. The fact that's it's duplicated is reason enough for me. I vote to delete. -- Tim Starling 06:10 Apr 28, 2003 (UTC)
- duplicated is sufficient reason Martin 00:44 Apr 29, 2003 (UTC)
- Fisting -- Do we really want to have an article about something like this? If so be advised that it will open up a whole slew of similar things. (206.156.242.36)
- It may not be an attractive concept, but it exists so yes, we should have it here. ÉÍREman
- Presumably, we should delete all sex-related entries except for missionary position? Martin 00:03 Apr 29, 2003 (UTC)
- USS Mississippi (CGN-40)
- Possible copyvio. --mav 03:47 Apr 29, 2003 (UTC)
- Image:Circumcenter.bmp -- size of bmp image is 400+ kilobyte! I've made a png version which was 2+ kilobyte! I've replaced the bmp with the png in the Circumcenter article, so the BMP version should go. Perhaps an idea to look for other excessive BMP images, too? -- Egil 04:45 Apr 29, 2003 (UTC)
- (Paul A) the image search at Special:Imagelist finds six bmp files, all orphans:
- Comment: BMP should not be an allowable image format... -- Anon.
- Hi anon. Sorry for putting this comment here. But hopefully you will see it here. If you really want to stay anonymous you should log in. You don't need to give you real name,any personal details or you email address. By not loggin in you expose your ip address as 217.158.106.64, a quick dns lookup shows you to be online with claranet, in europe{ probably the uk) and connected via adsl. I could telnet to 217.158.106.64 and really start digging, but I've already made my point. If you log in, you log in nick will show instead of your ip address and you will be truly anonymous. Theresa knott 08:40 Apr 29, 2003 (UTC)
- Officially, it isn't. The Wikipedia guidelines specify that all images should be JPG or PNG, as appropriate. (Note that most of the above six files are orphans because the image is also available in JPG or PNG format.) Alas, some people apparently don't know or care about such things as "guidelines" and "appropriate". -- Paul A 07:31 Apr 29, 2003 (UTC)
- Food quality, currently "Food quality is the quality of food - see agriculture". There has been quite a bit of editing and blanking.
- Knute Rockne All American
- possible copyright violation -- JeLuF 19:47 Apr 29, 2003 (UTC)
- CAS 8051 Assembler
- Sample code only, no article. -- JeLuF
- Rizal Park
- possible copyright violation -- JeLuF 20:54 Apr 29, 2003 (UTC)
- Holle, Bull hitch, Piwich knot
- External links only -- JeLuF
- Neoprene
- possible copyright infringement -- JeLuF 07:20 Apr 30, 2003 (UTC)
- stubbed -- Tim Starling 07:16 May 1, 2003 (UTC)
- The Perfect European, its Image:Stereotypiat.jpg, and the reference to it at Europe. -- John Owens 23:03 Apr 30, 2003 (UTC)
- Image:Stereotypiat.jpg
- orphan, insulting -- JeLuF 06:46 May 1, 2003 (UTC)
- Pittsburgh Locomotive And Car Works
- possible copyright infringement, even though it's taken from the Smithsonian. And whether or not it's a copyright violation, it was certainly carelessly pasted. -- John Owens 23:41 Apr 30, 2003 (UTC)
- Transcendental idealism
- It said "Copywright©(sic) 2001 Alex Scott" right on the page. Obviously not new content written for the purpose, then, and merely added with non-GFDL conditions. -- John Owens 23:50 Apr 30, 2003 (UTC)
- Thats how a nigger goes -- by banned user/racist troll User:Zog. It now redirects to Johnny Rebel, which I don't particularly object to; however I'd still like it deleted for the following reasons, mostly in the old versions in the edit history: 1)Zog's is deleberately racially insulting 2)It quotes in full the lyrics of a song by Johnny Rebel; as the Johnny Rebel article notes the copyright holder apparently doesn't like unauthorized copies on the web 3)It is mis-titled; "Thats" should have an apostrophy; capitalization is wrong for a song title. I think unlikely to be a usefull redirect, but if anyone feels strongly it should stay a redirect, perhaps we could delete the article to get rid of the potentially troublesome history and then recreate it as a simple redirect. -- Infrogmation 05:15 May 1, 2003 (UTC)
- While I understand the motives, we don't normally take care to strip copyrighted material out of the history, and I don't want to set a precedent that we do. Martin 08:01 May 1, 2003 (UTC)
- See meta:Wikipedia_and_copyright_issues for some legal arguments for permitting copyrighted text to stay in the history. Martin 13:04 May 2, 2003 (UTC)
- To my knowledge, before this no-one has ever suggested we need to remove copyright material from history. I suspect that the Infrogmation's main reason for listing it is not the copyright or the naming issue, it's the offensive nature of the text. What if the next we hear about this text is when some white-supremacist magazine publishes "check out http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Thats_how_a_nigger_goes&oldid=xxx for the full text of Johnny Rebel's song", and another part of the media uses this to sully Wikipedia's reputation? -- Tim Starling 13:44 May 2, 2003 (UTC)
- You could say the same about 1000s of other articles that have dodgy stuff in their histories. What makes this one special? Martin 14:38 May 2, 2003 (UTC)
- Yes, I find the banned user's contribution here offensive-- intentionally so. I also think that even as a redirect it's pretty useless. However I was not trying to propose any change policy. That said, I'm curious to know if there are any particular arguements why keeping that history is a positive thing-- perhaps as doccumentation of the banned user? Wondering simply, -- Infrogmation 20:51 May 2, 2003 (UTC)
- Recursive encyclopedia entry
- I'm not sure if this should be deleted, or moved to Wikipedia:Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense. -- Tim Starling 07:39 May 1, 2003 (UTC)
- just a poor attempt at humour -- Tarquin 18:43 May 1, 2003 (UTC)
- People in Assam
- Possible copyright violation, spotted by Kingturtle -- Tim Starling 11:53 May 1, 2003 (UTC)
- Young and Innocent
- This page redirects to Ernest Hemingway, while at the same time it obscures the fact that there is an Alfred Hitchcock movie of the same name. No valid links to this page seem to exist. --KF 13:56 May 1, 2003 (UTC)
- Disambiguated. KF, please read Wikipedia:Disambiguation -- Tim Starling 14:33 May 1, 2003 (UTC)
- All of you, please read the Ernest Hemingway biography. --KF 15:09 May 1, 2003 (UTC)
- Why? -- Tim Starling 03:30 May 2, 2003 (UTC)
- You don't have to do any deletions for this; it's a perfectly reasonable title for the film (since there is no such novel). I will move things around now that way -- no secret sysop superpowers required. -- Toby 07:36 May 2, 2003 (UTC)
- Probabilism
- possible copyright violation -- JeLuF 21:19 May 1, 2003 (UTC)
- Iwi
- whole content: Maori for tribe, literally "bones". Hmmmn check that out...at least needs more info like word origin and where it is used..
Antonio Half a Man Half a transexual Martin
- Image:Bu la553.jpg
- possible copyright violation -- Kt2
- Jump on It
- Funny capitalisation and content says roughly "CD is awful" -- SGB
- Spectal type - wrong spelling of spectral type (actually a redirect to Stellar classification), I have fixed all references and now nothing links there. At18 17:47 May 2, 2003 (UTC)
- Slant drilling content was: "drilling under a border and shit"
- Maybe there was some thruth in that - anyway, it should be slightly better now. Seems like Wikipedia is lacking in its coverage of oil drilling and modern petroleum engineering, though. - Egil 19:18 May 2, 2003 (UTC)