Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/Pro-pedophile activism

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Involved parties

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Pro-pedophile activism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Issues to be mediated

The party filing this request uses this section to list the issues for mediation. Other parties can list additional issues in the section below.

The wording of the introduction should be written from a NPOV. Fortunately, all editors agree on that. Unfortunately, all editors have their own special brand of NPOV.
The treatment of new editors. The page has a long history of banned users and socks, and guidance is requested on balancing good faith with protection from banned editors.
Bringing the rest of the article to an adequate standard.

Where to mediate

Many thanks to everyone agreeing to the mediation. Firstly, the most important thing at this stage is to make sure everyone is happy with me mediating this dispute. Secondally, we need to ascertain where the mediation is going to take place. We can do it on this talk page, on IRC, or the mediation committee has its on wiki, so for more private discussion, I could create everyone an account and we could do it on there. Under the appropriate heading, please state whether you agree with me mediating the dispute, and where you wish the dispute to be mediated. Ryan Postlethwaite 15:41, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you the mediator? I'm confused. Jeeny ^(talk) 17:10, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I am, sorry for not making it clear. Ryan Postlethwaite 19:13, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify a little, Jeeny, Daniel accepted that this case be brought to formal mediation, Ryan is going to be our mediator, if we accept. Martijn Hoekstra 19:18, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Happy with mediator

Yes

No

Jeeny ^(talk) 20:51, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Place for mediation

On this talk page

Since I believe in openness on Wikipedia, I would prefer to conduct all the proceedings here. However, if enough involved parties would like to have mediation take place somewhere else, I would not be against such action. ~ Homologeo 16:53, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On the MedComs private wiki

Fine, SqueakBox 17:25, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This is OK by me. I would like to know though, who is the mediator, Daniel or Ryan? Jeeny ^(talk) 18:54, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Even if the mediation is to take place somewhere other than here, I still would want to use the same venue, meaning I would prefer not to learn something new just for the mediation process - this might hinder participation. Is editing done within the MedCom's private wiki the same or similar to regular editing on Wikipedia? ~ Homologeo 19:40, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- In essence, it's exactly the same, just with a different name. The only thing is, I would have to register a username for everyone on the site, and you can only edit if you have a username. It would limit who was involved in the mediation to who you guys decide on. Ryan Postlethwaite 19:42, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Well let's wait for others still but so far this sounds the best option as I am not comfortable with other new people joining in without the prior agreement of all of us, SqueakBox 19:50, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IRC

Fine (but I don't know how to use it right now), SqueakBox 17:25, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I would suggest that if you don't know how to use it, then it's not the best venue to have a mediation on as it's not the easiest thing to learn quickly. Ryan Postlethwaite 17:51, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - I can learn pretty quickly as figuring out how to work computer things is a major part of my work but everyone else would also need to know how to use it. Info is at Wikipedia:IRC channels. I am really up for keeping this off wikipedia, SqueakBox 18:16, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - Well if you want me to, I'll send you a quick "how to" guide and info on a client to use by email. Please be aware though, I'm not the biggest IRC user so won't be the best person to explain things, should be able to get you started though. Ryan Postlethwaite 18:19, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - Yes, please, I am email enabled, SqueakBox 18:21, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      - I've emailed it to you, if anyone else wants the instructions on how to use IRC, I've saved them so I can easily send them to you. Ryan Postlethwaite 18:36, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No. I don't have the time or patience to learn. Jeeny ^(talk) 18:51, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wherever

IRC tends to be an effective place, if enough people can come together. I have no objection to this talk page, but I don't object to the MedCom either. Martijn Hoekstra 15:36, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]