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::It isn't, at least in part: the piece that labels Osvaldo Zubeldía a "great coach" does not have a source. But even when the sources do use some of the labels the article gives, that does not mean Wikipedia may do the same; this is an encyclopedia, not a sports review, and the appropriate styles for the two are not the same. [[User talk:Ucucha|Ucucha]] 19:59, 4 July 2010 (UTC) |
::It isn't, at least in part: the piece that labels Osvaldo Zubeldía a "great coach" does not have a source. But even when the sources do use some of the labels the article gives, that does not mean Wikipedia may do the same; this is an encyclopedia, not a sports review, and the appropriate styles for the two are not the same. [[User talk:Ucucha|Ucucha]] 19:59, 4 July 2010 (UTC) |
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:::It does now. The man is a legend in South America and, most notably, in Argentina. [[User:Jamen Somasu|Jamen Somasu]] ([[User talk:Jamen Somasu|talk]]) 20:14, 4 July 2010 (UTC) |
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'''media''' what is the country of origin of [[:File:Copa_Libertadores_logo.png]]? [[User:Fasach Nua|Fasach Nua]] ([[User talk:Fasach Nua|talk]]) 20:06, 4 July 2010 (UTC) |
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- Nominator(s): Jamen Somasu (talk) 18:33, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured article because because it has long-met the criteria and qualifications specified in order to become such. This article definetly makes the bar. Jamen Somasu (talk) 18:33, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose—no dab links, but dead external links to http://www.nacional.com.uy/mvdcms/uc_3393_1.html, http://www.nacional.com.uy/mvdcms/uc_3397_1.html, http://www.nacional.com.uy/mvdcms/uc_3395_1.html, http://www.oncecaldas.com.co/his_titulos.php?UID_ANO=ANOWW0000004 . Also, the lead contains a dangling modifier ("Despite being a South American competition, ..."), peacock language ("gaining the attention of 135 nations worldwide"), and excessive references (references in the lead are rarely needed, but putting the same ref on five consecutive sentences is even worse, especially when the facts sourced are as controversial as the tournament format). In the first few paragraphs of the "History" section, there are grammatical errors ("no least thanks"), redundant wording ("back in the 1930s"), and non-sequitur pieces ("a healthy sporting rivalry ... Episodes of violence are not rare"). Further down, it's full of, often unsourced, high praise—"historic justice", "sublime", "best ... in the world" ("considered by some", of course), "dazzled", "great", "outstanding". I don't doubt you've done a lot of good work on the article, and perhaps soccer aficionados (I'm keeping in style with the article) will even like the prose, but it is not what I would expect of a neutral, disinterested encyclopedia. Ucucha 18:50, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- Well, a lot of the grammar has been fixed and the dead links are gone. But the rest is completely sourced. Of course, you must know Spanish to read the links. Jamen Somasu (talk) 19:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- It isn't, at least in part: the piece that labels Osvaldo Zubeldía a "great coach" does not have a source. But even when the sources do use some of the labels the article gives, that does not mean Wikipedia may do the same; this is an encyclopedia, not a sports review, and the appropriate styles for the two are not the same. Ucucha 19:59, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- It does now. The man is a legend in South America and, most notably, in Argentina. Jamen Somasu (talk) 20:14, 4 July 2010 (UTC)