Talk:Tree shaping/List of potential title names

Tree shaping

No.	Quote	Souce	Page/Link	Author	Publisher	Year
01	"The Iowa station advises shaping trees to be thus protected by training the trunks horizontally along the ground and allowing the upright head to form several feet to one side of the stump."	Nature Report volume 9-11	Google books page 98	?	?	1898
02	"Down through generations, the caretakers of his temple, skilled in tree-shaping and pruning grew this remarkable tree-ship in his memory..."	The Popular science monthly, Volume 90	photo page: 336	?	Modern Publishing Company	1917
03	"...has renewed interest in tree shaping and encouraged the the contrast of loose, natural plant shapes with trained plant forms.	Book title: The garden book	page:183 Google Books	John Brookes	Dorling Kindersley	1984
04	"Tree shaping detail" Has two drawings with trees bent and held in place. "Plant tree diagonally, form tree into 's' curve...."	Book Title: Planting Design	page:164 Drawings with text	Theodore D. Walker	John Wiley & Sons, Inc.; 2nd edition	1991
05	"...by shaping more than 70 mature sculptures at his road side attraction named the The Tree Circus" "...how he shaped his trees..." "Tree trunk topiary, botanical architecture, arbortipia - all of these terms have attempted to describe an early 1900s approach to tree shaping that goes beyond such traditional practices of topiary, bonsai and espalier." "...began shaping trees as a hobby..." "...Erlandson carefully guarded all that he learned about tree shaping..." "...how he shaped his trees,..." "The fourlegged giant is shaped from four trees" "...creative shaping of tree trunks..." "...oddly-shaped trees..." "When I first began to experiment with tree shaping,..." "...experiment with shaping technique."	Book Title:How to grow a chair The art of Tree Trunk Topiary		Richard Reames (practitioner) and Barbara Delbol	Self published	1995
06	"...the shaping of the trees." Interview with Richard Reames co-author Delbol.	Magazine, Tree Care Industry- trade journal of the National Arborist Association	archive	Sachin Mohan		May issue, 1997
07	"...concept of shaping trees into living works of art." ...Axel Erlandson, who shaped more than seventy trees..."	Landscape Architecture	archive	?		May issue, 1997
08	"...outlines techniques for tree shaping and describes projects for readers, including detailed information on growing the chair mentioned in the title."	Raw vision	Issues 29-33 [1]	?	?	2000
09	"...the designs he had in mind for shaping trees." "The trees were shaped when very young..."	Book title: My father "Talked to Trees"	page: 7	Wilma Erlandson	?	2001
10	"...in the gardens of this period, a regularity and geometricity of shapes were applied to plants. They give evidence of a veritable culture of tree shaping, developed by garden designers....	Book title: Tradition and innovation in French garden art: chapters of a new history	page:88	John Dixon Hunt, Michel Conan, Claire Goldstein	University of Pennsylvania Press	2002
11	"...as distant artists independently arrive at the apparently unique thought of shaping tree trunks." "Axel Erlandson started shaping trees on his farm around 1925..." "Chapter title "History of Shaping Trees" "...Axel planted and shaped trees..." "He's developed more confidence in his ability to shape trees, and a project started in 2001, an intricate Shield of David,..." about Aharon Naveh "While Axel...on how he went about his tree shaping techniques." "...ask Axel how he shaped his trees,..." "For the first time ever the works of accomplished tree-shapers from around the world will be assembled in one location for public display." about the 2005 world expo Growing Village. "...I had learned on the subject of shaping trees."	Book title Arborsculpture Solutions for a Small Planet		Richard Reames (practitioner)	Self published	copyright 2002
12	...the ability to shape trees to not look like trees, but instead to look like objects,...	Title: Warwick artist grows wooden 'jewels' for World Expo	page 4	Fred McKie	Newspaper:The Southern Free Times	April 20, 2005
13	Section heading: "Shaping Trees" "All trees can be trained to whatever shape and pattern fits best into any garden."	Book title: Organic Gardening: The Natural No-Dig Way	page:188	Charles Dowding	Green Books	2007
14	"Extreme tree shaping (like the granny knot page 65)" talking about Aharon Naveh's pretzel tree. "But back to tree shaping and Ivan Hicks."	Book title: Tricks with Trees	page:7	Ivan Hicks (practitioner) and Richard Rosenfeld	Pavilion Books	copy right 2007
15	"...the art of shaping living trees into furniture,..."	Dwell magazine Article title:Branching out	[Branching Out] page:96	James Nestor		February 2007
16	"the art of shaping living trees into whimsical shapes and functional objects,..." "Reames travels around the world planting and shaping trees for public parks and private gardens."	Book title: Oregon Curiosities	Google books	Harriet Baskas	Morris Book Publishing LLC	2007
17	"...art form that is created by growing and shaping tree trunks..." "...the practice of shaping the growth of tree trunks..." "...would shape these trees..." "The park is full of wonderfully shaped trees"	Article title: Arborsculpture	pdf	Trace Link	Paper for University of California	June 13, 2008
18	"The concept of shaping living trees into useful objects ­­­­ known as tree shaping, arborsculpture, living art or pooktre isn’t new."	Article tilte: TAU's Eco-Architecture Could Produce "Grow Your Own" Homes		[2]	American friends Tel Aviv University	published Thursday, August 21, 2008 ©2010
19	Title "Artists Shape Trees Into Furniture and Art" "...and people shaped trees..." "...of shaping trees..." "...is called Tree shaping..." "...seem to think tree shaping takes too long" "...shaping a tree is..." caption of image "...for shaping trees as they grow..." caption of image "...harvest the shaped trees..."	Magazine article title: Artists Shape Trees Into Furniture and Art	pdf		Farm Show Magazine: 9, vol.32 no.4,	june/august 2008
20	"He began to shape trees by planting them in patterns and then pruning, bending, and grafting them." Talking about Axel Erlandson's work	Book Title: Between earth and sky: our intimate connections to trees	google books page:154	Nalini Nadkarni	University of California Press	July 2008
21	"The concept of shaping living trees into useful objects known as tree shaping, arborsculpture, living art or pooktre isn’t new."	Article Title: TAU's Eco-Architecture Could Produce "Grow Your Own" Homes	AFTAU			August 21, 2008
22	Title on Magazine cover "Tangled Furniture: How two tree shapers make furniture" Article title:"A tree shaper's life" "...to shaped trees..." "Tree shaping," "...explaining how to shape trees." "John Gathright,...attempted shaping trees,..." "...tree shapers found..." "...take tree shaping far into the future." "...cities will take on tree shaping in an effort..." "Before tree shaping..." "...benefits of tree shaping."	Magazine article title: A tree shapers life	pdf		Queensland smart farmer	October/November 2008
23	"The art of Tree Shaping" Article title	Beijing newspaper, Culture		Hao Jinyao		11th May 2009
24	"... Plantware, have perfected these techniques as they have shaped trees into fruit bowls, toilet paper holders and street lamps..."	DER SPIEGEL	spiegel	Philip Bethge		July, 2009
25	"...using their tree-shaping technique. pooktre.com"	Wired UK Magazine article title:Pooktre Furniture	page:86		The Conde Nast Publications Ltd	Dec 2009
26	Caption above images "...technique of growing and shaping trunks of trees and other woody plants by grafting, bending and pruning the woody trunks..."	North Coast Chapter of the California Landscape Contractors Association newsletter	pdf			2010
27	Caption under image: "The cambium layer of the tree can be selectively joined to create amazing tree shapes." Image of Pooktre's ballerina tree.	Pruning for Flowers and Fruit	[page:96]	Jane Varkulevicius	CSIRO Publishing	2010

Use of Tree shaping, tree shapers and variations in fantasy.

No.	Quote	Souce	Page/Link	Author	Publisher	Year
01	"I seem to be a treeshaper..."	Comic Blood of Ten Chiefs	page 24 [[3]]	Collins,Nastos and Taillefer	Warp Graphics	July 1986
02	"I am a tree-shaper"	Book Title A Gift of Her Own	page 13	Wendy Pini	Father Tree Press	1995

Related to Tree shaping Quotes,

Martin felt these quotes below and others were too vague, so I created this subsection.

No.	Quote	Souce	Page/Link	Author	Publisher	Year
01	Chapter heading: "Tree growth and Shaping Techniques" "...began shaping what...examples of tree trunk topiary..." "...began the shaping process..." "...a spiral table is shaped from red alder." Order form: "Some of the designs mentioned in our book How to grow a chair can by Pre-Shaped and ready to plant at your own location...."	Book Title:How to grow a chair The art of Tree Trunk Topiary		Richard Reames and Barbara Delbol	Self published	1995
02	"...trees and began the shaping process." ...thrive the shaping process best." Interview with Richard Reames co-author Delbol.	Tree care Industry		Sachin Mohan		May issue, 1997
03	"...trees were very young and flexiable he shaped them..."	Book title: My father "Talked to Trees"	page: 4	Wilma Erlandson	?	2001
04	"...(tree growing and shaping)..." description of neologism for the art form. "Axel Erlandson...who pruned, shaped and grafted over 70 trees..."	Book title: Tricks with Trees	page:123	Ivan Hicks and Richard Rosenfeld	Pavilion Books	copy right 2007
05	"...Axel Erlandson to begin shaping his own trees..." "...are growing and shaping..."	Article title: Arborsculpture	page: 27 http://lda.ucdavis.edu/people/2008/TLink.pdf	Trace Link	Paper for University of California	June 13, 2008

Shaping plants through inosculation to form useful or artistic items

Shaping plants through inosculation

Shaping plants to form useful or artistic items

Insoculation sculpture

Biotecture

No.	Quote	Souce	Page/Link	Author	Publisher	Year
01	"Doernach's work goes far beyond the points canvassed below of creating an oxygenated, disease-free environment, and 'bio-fitting' described here"	The RIC Good Wood Guide LIVING STRUCTURES	BIOTECTURE I: LIVING HOUSES	Rudolf Doernach	?	?
02	PLANT­BUILDING INTERACTION	The RIC Good Wood Guide LIVING STRUCTURES	BIOTECTURE II:PLANT­BUILDING INTERACTION	by Stephen Lesiuk, Dept of Architecture, Sydney University	?	?
03	Biotecture - is the design of multi-purpose plant shelters for human occupation with integral conservation and energy generation capacity.	The RIC Good Wood Guide NON TIMBER BUILDING MATERIALS	BIOTECTURE	?	?	?
04	"The branch of architecture that deals with living structures is called ‘biotecture’"	Title Pdf: Botanical Engineering	page:15	Thomas Fischbacher	University of Southampton United Kingdom	2007

Tree Circus

Grown furniture

No.	Quote	Souce	Page/Link	Author	Publisher	Year
01	"Grown Furniture" shows an image of two of Dr Chris Cattle's stools "More Grown Furniture" shows an image of Pooktre harvested table and mirror	Title Pdf: Botanical Engineering		Thomas Fischbacher	University of Southampton United Kingdom	2007

Circus Trees

No.	Quote	Souce	Page/Link	Author	Publisher	Year
01	Article Title: ".Circus trees are living adventures in horticulture."	Landscape architecture, Volume 90, Issues 10-12 magazine	[Google books]			2000
02	"...I suggested changing the name to "Tree Circus,"..." "Tree Circus" appears two more times on this page. Chapter Title: "The Tree Circus-In Scotts Valley" "Tree Circus" appears twice more in the book	Book title: My father "Talked to Trees"	page: 14	Wilma Erlandson	?	2001
03	"Circus trees an Arboricultural wonder"	Arborist news, Volumes 14-15 Article title:Circus trees an Arboricultural wonder	google books			2005

Tree training

No.	Quote	Souce	Page/Link	Author	Publisher	Year
01	"The Iowa station advises shaping trees to be thus protected by training the trunks horizontally along the ground and allowing the upright head to form several feet to one side of the stump."	Nature Report volume 9-11	Google books page 98	?	?	1898
02	Subheading: "The training of the live wattle fence"	?	The RIC Good Wood Guide Living Structures	Kurt Herran	first published in Czechoslovakia	1933
03	"...has renewed interest in tree shaping and encouraged the the contrast of loose, natural plant shapes with trained plant forms.	Book title: The garden book	page:183	John Brookes	Dorling Kindersley	1984
04	"...the training of trees is popular...."	Book title: The garden book	page:183	John Brookes	Dorling Kindersley	1984
05	".Learn the history and basics of arborsculpture: the craft of training trees to form artistic and useful shapes."	Hobby Farm Home Magazine Article Title:Planting Your Future	Hobby Farm Home	Patti Cassidy	BowTie Inc.	January/February 2009
06	"...and then trained them to grow together forming one large tree." " ...be accomplished along the line of training tree trunks to grow..." "...was busy training a large number of new trees."	Book title: My father "Talked to Trees"		Wilma Erlandson	?	2001
07	"...frame that will train the sculpture to its final shape." "...used to train a two dimensional design..."	Book Title:How to grow a chair The art of Tree Trunk Topiary	page:74	Richard Reames (practitioner) and Barbara Delbol	Self published	1995
08	""But the grafting and training of trees themselves into shapes is new," says Reames."	House Beautiful	archive	Brian Doyle		June issue, 1997
09	About Axel Erlandson trees: "...-training trees into unique and intricate designs." "Erlandson never revealed the tree training techniques he used,..."	Tree News	page:39	John May		Spring/Summer 2005
10	"...massive willow with pliable branches for training as a balustrade..." "The chair (near right) has a couple of willow lengths planted against each leg, trained up and around..." Subheading "Tree Training a Granny knot" "...-for training the trunks..." "...trained around a swamp cypress" drawing a tree spirals and loops. "...(1516) by Jean Perreal showing real or imagined, highly intricate tree training." "...Its interwoven branches are trained and cress grafted to form the seat and back,..."	Book title: Tricks with Trees		Ivan Hicks (practitioner) and Richard Rosenfeld	Pavilion Books	copy right 2007
11	"A Southern Oregon man trains trees into chairs, tables, even a house" Sub heading of article ...when people asked him how he trained trees, he said he talked to them,	"Oregonian newspaper “Home & Garden” section	archive	Kym Pokorny		June 25 1998
12	"...Axel began designing and training tons of new trees." "... between the tree and the human trainer." "... potential of training tree trunks into fun and functional garden elements."	Article title: Arborsculpture	http://lda.ucdavis.edu/people/2008/TLink.pdf	Trace Link	Paper for University of California	June 13, 2008
13	In the process of training or over time, these branches fuse or are grafted together.	Book title: Pruning for Flowers and Fruit	page:96	Jane Varkulevicius	CSIRO Publishing	2010
14	"...elaborate chair constructed from three trees trained together." "Arborsculpture is the practice of training trees..."	Article Title: A Truly Living Art	page 26	Patti Cassidy	Rhode Island HOME, LIVING & DESIGN Volume 5, Issue 8	Aug 2008
15	"Training trees to grow in all manner of decorative shapes..."	DER SPIEGEL	Spiegel	Philip Bethge		July, 2009
16	"The plants are not just left to grow as they wish, but instead are trained to follow a pattern designed by Ludwig and his colleagues."	Article Title: A very special tree house	BIOPRO	BIOPRO Baden-Württemberg GmbH	2010
17	"As they grew, branches were pruned and trained along this grid..." "...Of the 67 trees trained by Axel..."(about Axel Erlandson's shaped trees)	rainforestinfo.org.au	Pleaching	Mark Primack (practitioner)		?
18	"...is an art form in which trees are trained to..." talking about Axel Erlandson	Book title:Knack Treehouses	google books page:3	Lon Levin, Dan Wright	Morris Book Publishing LLC	copyright 2010

Tree sculpture

Arborsculpture

No.	Quote	Souce	Page/Link	Author	Publisher	Year
01	Arborsculpture originated here and is used throughout	Book Title: How To Grow a Chair, ISBN 0-9647280-0-1		Richard Reames and Barbra Dalbol	Self Published	1995
02	..."the book explores the intriguing field known as Arborsculpture."	Magazine, Tree Care Industry- trade journal of the National Arborist Association	archive	Sachin Mohan	Tree Care Industry Association	May 1997
03	"Erlandson began his foray into arborsculpture in the 1920s."	Landscape Architecture Magazine Article title: Circus trees are Living Adventures in Horticulture	Google Books		American Society of Landscape Architects	2000
04	Tree trunks and branches are being trained to create unusual designs, such as circles, spheres, cubes, menorahs, and spirals. Other arborsculpture designs are being created as well.	Slosson Report- Fair Oaks Horticulture Center.	pdf	Chuck Ingels	UCANR (University of California- Agriculture and Natural Resources)	2000-2001
05	"Arborsculpture is a method of bending and grafting shoots to create useful and eye-catching structures".	Landscape & Turf News COOPERATIVE EXTENSION • UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA	pdf	?	COOPERATIVE EXTENSION • UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA	2003
06	Arborscuplture, used throughout	Arborsculpture- Solutions for a Small Planet ISBN 0-9647280-8-7		Richard Reames	Self Published	2005
07	"This form of arborsculpture has been around perhaps since 1516..."	Newsletter of the International society of Arborist, Texas Chapter	go get papers	Pat Wentworth	ISA Texas chapter	2007
08	Glossary: arborsculpture. A horticultural art form in witch the shoots and young trees are trained and grafted together to create tree structures.	Book: The Home Orchard ISBN 978-1-879906-723	[Google book search see p.192]	C. Ingels, P. Geisel, M. Norton	University of California, Agricultural and Natural Resources Communication Services	2007
09	Senior Project, titled Arborscuplture, used throughout	University of California, Davis Pdf titled: Arborscuplture	pdf	Tracy Link		June, 2008
10	"The grand old man of arborsculpture, Axel Erlandson (1884-1964) was inspiered by observing..."	Book Title: Between earth and sky: our intimate connections to trees	[Google book search see p.154]	Nalini Nadkarni	University of California Press	July 2008
11	"The concept of shaping living trees into useful objects ­­­­ known as tree shaping, arborsculpture, living art or pooktre isn’t new."	Article tilte: TAU's Eco-Architecture Could Produce "Grow Your Own" Homes		[4]	American friends Tel Aviv University	published Thursday, August 21, 2008 ©2010
12	"...a process commonly called arborsculpture". Arborscuplture, used throughout	SCIENCE FRONTIERS EDU	SCIENCE FRONTIERS			2008?
13	"Learn the history and basics of arborsculpture: the craft of training trees to form artistic and useful shapes.	Hobby Farm Home Magazine Article Title:Planting Your Future	Hobby Farm Home	Patti Cassidy	BowTie Inc.	January/February 2009
14	"The arborsculpture trees were planted in February 2000."	Sacramento Master Gardeners- Fair Oaks Horticulture Center	Fair Oaks Horticulture Center		The Regents of the University of California	July, 2009
15	"companies like the Israeli firm, Plantware, have perfected these techniques as they have shaped trees into fruit bowls, toilet paper holders and street lamps; they call their work "arborsculpture.""	DER SPIEGEL	Spiegl	Philip Bethge		July, 2009
16	Grafting to create unusual growth forms in a practice called arborsculpture involves intertwining and grafting together the stems of two or more plants in order to create domes, chairs, ladders, and other fanciful sculptures.	A History of Grafting- Horticultural Reviews, Volume 35 section 4. Creation of Unusual Growth Forms	large PDF (8.4 MB)or google books	K. MUDGE, J. JANICK, S. SCOFIELD, AND E. E. GOLDSCHMIDT	Purdue University	2009
17	Arborsculpture used as title in pictorial.	North Coast Chapter of the California Landscape Contractors Association newsletter	Large PDF (6.5 MB)			2010
18	"Arborsculpture: Gardening as an art form"	Environmental Semester- Resources for the interdisciplinary study of Environmentalism and nature	links		The UNIVERSITY of TENNESSEE	current
19	"Axel Erlandson set the bar for all aspiring arbor sculptors..."	Book Title: Knack Treehouses: A Step-by-Step Guide...ISBN 9781-1-59921-783-3	Google books	Lon Levin, Dan Wright	Morris book publishing LLC	2010

Pleaching

No.	Quote	Souce	Page/Link	Author	Publisher	Year
01	"Erlandson began pleaching, as this ancient technique is known,..."	Americana, Volume 9	Google Books page:96			1981
02	"With this method, known as "pleaching," he created..." about Axel Erlandson's work	Fine woodworking, Issues 56-61 Article title: The tree Circus of Axel Erlandson	Google books page:108		Taunton Press	1986
03	"The word "pleaching" is used by some as a substitute for the word arborsculpture,..."	Book title Arborsculpture Solutions for a small Planet	page24	Richard Reames	Self published	2002 copyright
04	"The (old) ‘weaving’ technique used to construct these living structures is called ‘pleaching’."	Title Pdf: Botanical Engineering	page:15	Thomas Fischbacher	University of Southampton United Kingdom	2007
05	"The word pleaching is used by some as a substitute for arborsculpture..."	Article title: Arborsculpture	page: 5 http://lda.ucdavis.edu/people/2008/TLink.pdf	Trace Link	Paper for University of California	June 13, 2008
06	"Mark discusses Rudolph Doernach's adaptation of the ancient weaving technique of pleaching in order to grow living houses using bent, grafted and pruned willow branches to create habitable shapes" "This is one of the specimens from a unique pleached forest in Scotts Valley, California." (caption of one Axel Erlandson's shaped trees)	The NSW Good Wood Guide	Pleaching	Mark Primack	?	?
07	Section heading: "Pleaching" "Pleaching is a form of living architecture." "...involuves plaiting or weaving living branches together to form a structure." "...or can form more ambitious configurations(see Figure 4.68)" Which is an image of Pooktre's ballerina tree.	Book title: Pruning for Flowers and Fruit	page:96	Jane Varkulevicius	CSIRO Publishing	2010
08	"Living examples of pleached structures include the red alder bench by Richard Reames and sycamore tower by Axel Erlandson"	Architecture journal Book title:306090 08: Autonomous Urbanism	Google bookspage:42	Kjersti Monson, Alex Duval	?	?
09	"The design utilizes"pleaching," a gardening technique in which tree branches are woven together to form living archways." accompanying the image of the fab tree house.	Book Title: Knack Treehouses: A Step-by-Step Guide...ISBN 9781-1-59921-783-3	Google books	Lon Levin, Dan Wright	Morris book publishing LLC	2010

Living Art

No.	Quote	Souce	Page/Link	Author	Publisher	Year
01	"The concept of shaping living trees into useful objects ­­­­ known as tree shaping, arborsculpture, living art or pooktre isn’t new."	Article tilte: TAU's Eco-Architecture Could Produce "Grow Your Own" Homes		[5]	American friends Tel Aviv University	published Thursday, August 21, 2008 ©2010

Tree art

No.	Quote	Souce	Page/Link	Author	Publisher	Year
01	"This tree art..."	Article Title: A Truly Living Art	page 26	Patti Cassidy	Rhode Island HOME, LIVING & DESIGN Volume 5, Issue 8	Aug 2008

References/Source

I'll be going though the above tables to create a list which has each source/reference and what they are.

• Nature Report volume 9-11 Google books Report for the Colorado. State Board of Horticulture.
• The Popular science monthly, Volume 90 || photo Monthly collection of articles about technology and science ref
• The garden book Google Books Is a book guide to creating gardens ref
• Planting Design Drawings with text Textbook design principles and techniques for landscaping ref
• How to grow a chair The art of Tree Trunk Topiary. [6] Book about Axel Erlandson, some history and method of shaping trees. Self published by a self-admitted non expert. ref
• Tree Care Industry archive Trade journal of the National Arborist Association which book review/interviews authors of How to grow a chair, written and self published by non experts.
• Landscape Architecture archive interview/book review author of How to grow a chair, written and self published by non expert.
• Raw vision Issues 29-33 [7] book review of How to grow a chair, written and self published by non expert.
• My father "Talked to Trees" [8] Book about Axel Erlandson written by his daughter a non expert in the art form.
• Tradition and innovation in French garden art: chapters of a new history page:88 Book is about innovative moments of French garden history.
• Arborsculpture Solutions for a Small Planet Book Book about the history, talks about the different artists and gives a brief outline of the author's method of shaping trees. Self published by practicing non expert. [9]
• Warwick artist grows wooden 'jewels' for World Expo Newspaper:The Southern Free Times Interview with the two artists of tree shaping.
• Organic Gardening: The Natural No-Dig Way Book page:188 Book about growing fruit and veges in the home garden.
• Tricks with Trees Book about the interesting things that can be done with trees. Also writes about some of the artists. Author states they shaped trees and are a UK landscape design TV personally.

Comment here about the above references please

To keep the references easy to read please make your comments here.

Tree shaping No.01 Comment on photo: Looks like a topiary, as the evergreen foliage defines the shape of the boat. Slowart (talk) 09:10, 14 August 2010

In the first section, items 4,5,7,8,11,12,13,15,17,18,19,21,22,23,25,26,27,29,30,31,32,33,35,36 do not actually contain the term 'tree shaping' but simply some combination of a form of the noun 'tree' in varying degree of proximity to some form of the verb 'shape'. Martin Hogbin (talk) 20:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Noted, thou some of them use shaping trees, shaped tree or that type of thing and should stay. The others I'll moved to a sub section of that section so they are still accessible and other editors can decide whether they are relevant or not for themselves. I do that next week. Blackash have a chat 23:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Martin I moved 4,7,12,13,15,17,29,30,33,35. to a subsection. I'm changing the numbers after this edit. Blackash have a chat 22:36, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Looks like many of the "tree shaping" references are contained within articles that are titled arborsculpture or uses the word arborsculpture in paragraphs before or after. For example 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 of "Tree Shaping" are simply quoting various ways of using of the verb "shaping" in the body of a book about arborsculpture. Slowart (talk) 04:35, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Tree shaping is used in books and articles about the art form that are in no way linked to arborsculpture. Though tree shaping, shaping trees or shaped tree is used alot as a descriptive phrase for Arborsculpture. Tree shaping is used for our work (Pooktre) and also by others in this field. Which was the point, broaden the title until it become neutral and doesn't lead to one artist. Thank you for pointing out that Tree shaping and variations are also linked to Arborsculpture and not just Pooktre. Blackash have a chat 04:32, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Many helpful links here. Slowart (talk) 04:56, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

In Arborsculpture

• 4, 6, and 10 seem have dead links.
• 7 Where Konstantin Kirsch is writing about Arborsculpture his text is mostly a copy and paste from your site site on the 15 April 2008 which is almost word for word what was on wikipeida about that time. 20:36, 8 April 2008 This is a circular reference which is a problem.
• 14 is a directory listing, do they even count?
• 15 is based upon a press release, and the writer seems a bit confused, example stating that bonsai is a form of arborsculpture. Blackash have a chat 06:14, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Can we prune this list of potential titles down ? I removed "Circus Trees" as I'm pretty sure it's copyrighted by Gilroy Gardens. Slowart (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

I think we can remove Biotecture, Grown furniture, Pleaching, Living Art, Tree art, as they are all unusable as titles. I also think we can move the page for a time to The art of training trees into useful or artistic items as that was just agreed to (mostly). Slowart (talk) 05:44, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Please don't remove any of the suggested titles, as this page is a resource for editors wanting to know what are the refs for the different names. I got more refs to add but don't have time until Tuesday. Blackash have a chat 14:43, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Hopefully we could work together to reduce the volume, saving other editors scroll time at least. let's remove the ref "How to grow a chair The art of Tree Trunk Topiary, as it is (self published by a non-expert) or at least condense 4 to 10 in the tree shaping table into one please, along with 15-20, ect. Slowart (talk) 17:29, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Slowart, a quick note, I condense 4-10 on Tuesday Australian time. Blackash have a chat 12:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Slowart please don't remove quotes, I have started condensing the entries and will get around to all of them. I will only do a few on my main editing day. The quotes are there so editors can easily assess in what context the wording is used and the relevancy of each entry for themselves. Blackash have a chat 09:24, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Ok I've managed to get all present entries condensed. I upload some more refs next week. Blackash have a chat 10:10, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Mr Reames- Glancing over this dispute I see a tendency towards pithy pronouncements w/o much support from facts or reasoning. Opinions count here, but they get you only so far in argument. For example- I can understand "Biotecture, Grown furniture" & "Living Art, Tree art" may be neologisms. But why have you lumped the historically precedent term Pleaching in with your "unusable" list? Pleaching is the traditional term for the art as far as I know.Hilarleo ^Hey,L.E.O. 14:24, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Mr Hilarleo- the account [[User:|Reames|Reames]] don't talk here has been closed. Can you afford me a tiny shred of privacy that you may also enjoy please? No worries... Pleaching is well defined in botanical literature. Pleaching techniques involve braiding as in pleating, the natural outcome is that the branches tend to grow together. This is where the similarity ends, do we want to describe a living tree chair (for example) as pleaching? Some folks think that when branches grow together that would be referred to as pleaching or grafting or Inosculation and in some ways it is, but it is not accurate nor is it helpful in an encyclopedia. IMHO there is a preponderance of reliable verifiable sources for arborsculpture, but then I have COI so you are welcome to ignore me IMO.The Home Orchard Purde university horticulture department *University of California Cooperative Extension*Horticultural Reviews *Grad Thesis *University of California pressThe best of the crop is see pdf page 6 text book page 442 section 4. Slowart (talk) 18:17, 15 March 2011 (UTC)