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*I think I have a little evidence here, Mar4d seems to rarely use edit summaries on article talk pages,[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Mar4d&namespace=1&tagfilter=&year=&month=-1] The suspected sock has the same habit[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/NerosRevenge] [[User:Darkness Shines|Darkness Shines]] ([[User talk:Darkness Shines|talk]]) 20:51, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
*I think I have a little evidence here, Mar4d seems to rarely use edit summaries on article talk pages,[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Mar4d&namespace=1&tagfilter=&year=&month=-1] The suspected sock has the same habit[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/NerosRevenge] [[User:Darkness Shines|Darkness Shines]] ([[User talk:Darkness Shines|talk]]) 20:51, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
*Both use the same smiley face as well :)[http://toolserver.org/~snottywong/cgi-bin/commentsearch.cgi?name=Mar4d&search=%3A%29&max=100&ns=none]
*Both use the same smiley face as well :)[http://toolserver.org/~snottywong/cgi-bin/commentsearch.cgi?name=Mar4d%26amp%3Bsearch%3D%253A%2529%26amp%3Bmax%3D100%26amp%3Bns%3Dnone]
*:) you really outdone yourself there darkness bravo whats next we got the same shoe size? :) [[User:NerosRevenge|NerosRevenge]] ([[User talk:NerosRevenge|talk]]) 21:46, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
*:) you really outdone yourself there darkness bravo whats next we got the same shoe size? :) [[User:NerosRevenge|NerosRevenge]] ([[User talk:NerosRevenge|talk]]) 21:46, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NerosRevenge&diff=prev&oldid=481171428] [[User:Darkness Shines|Darkness Shines]] ([[User talk:Darkness Shines|talk]]) 21:38, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NerosRevenge&diff=prev&oldid=481171428] [[User:Darkness Shines|Darkness Shines]] ([[User talk:Darkness Shines|talk]]) 21:38, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
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::Yes, I am sorry for that, was short of time. Otherwise I would have provided more diffs. Thanks for checking. Although I was wrong with Mar4d, I then found the right tracks, I guess. [[User:JCAla|JCAla]] ([[User talk:JCAla|talk]]) 19:09, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
::Yes, I am sorry for that, was short of time. Otherwise I would have provided more diffs. Thanks for checking. Although I was wrong with Mar4d, I then found the right tracks, I guess. [[User:JCAla|JCAla]] ([[User talk:JCAla|talk]]) 19:09, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

* Note: It looks that Mar4d is cooking up [[User:Mar4d/India_and_state_terrorism|India and state terrorism]].Obvious "bad faith" this article has been deleted twice obviously is intended to reopen "can of worms"-edit war. --[[Special:Contributions/200.98.197.34|200.98.197.34]] ([[User talk:200.98.197.34|talk]]) 21:16, 13 March 2012 (UTC)


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Mar4d

Mar4d (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
For archived investigations, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mar4d/Archive.
Please note that a case was originally opened under Acejet (talk · contribs) but has been moved to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mar4d. Future cases should be placed under Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mar4d.

– This SPI case is open.

10 March 2012
Suspected sockpuppets

Mar4d was blocked from wikicommons for using multiple accounts.[1] The wikipedia NerosRevenge account was created after Mar4d was blocked for edit warring on the same articles Nero then immediately turned to. Also, the name is quite telling as it speaks of revenge. Mar4d had been working on "revenge" for another user's pointing out of atrocities committed by the Pakistani military. The "revenge" now consists of pointing out abuses by India's military. Nothing wrong with that, just the way it seems to be done is wrong. JCAla (talk) 17:10, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some Diffs:

  • Mar4d

Edit warring on Human rights abuses in Jammu and Kashmir (Indian-administered Kashmir) [2][3]

Edit warring on Rape during the Bangladesh Liberation War [4]

  • suspected sock

First act after registration of a new user? [5]

"New" user immediately edit warring and adding content on same issues? [6][7][8]

Immediately creating an article Rape in Indian-administered Kashmir meant to be a counter to Rape during the Bangladesh Liberation War created by User:Darkness Shines with whom Mar4d was edit warring?[9] [10]

Immediately on Darkness Shines' talk page? [11]

Also, see this amount of edit warring on the article history.[12]

This is definitely a sock of a knowledgeable user, the most likely being Mar4d, but certainly others might be behind it as well. If more diffs are needed please tell me. JCAla (talk) 20:39, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Comments by other users
It appears I am a sock as well [16] Obvious put up job. Darkness Shines (talk) 20:42, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, well, what can I say other than quoting someone who said "masterfully deceptive" - not referring to you here obviously. JCAla (talk) 20:48, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

[20] Darkness Shines (talk) 21:38, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Added the Awaaz-e Kashmir user as possible sock, see if it is related to Nero and if games are being played here. JCAla (talk) 20:58, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey guys sorry to break your party but did you know I do not live in Pakistan like mard does? just a thought NerosRevenge (talk) 21:02, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Strange that you know were he lives [21] He has yet to respond. You are in the UK then? Nangparbat anyone? Darkness Shines (talk) 21:09, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
HE HE you make me laugh his user page states he is from Peshawar on location XD NerosRevenge (talk) 21:12, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Which would make sense if you had not posted here before asking him were he lived. You asked him were he lives at 21:03, 10 March[22] but had already posted here[23] a minute earlier. I reckon you are on a proxy. Darkness Shines (talk) 21:22, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I feel sorry for you as you because you may be blocked for attacking user mard for no reason once they realise we live in different countrys (his user page clearly states he lives in australia/pakistan he did not have to tell me I asked before reading it...) NerosRevenge (talk) 21:26, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

Hey Jcala I just read your post about "revenge" didnt your friend darkness create [24] in a tit for tat response to Human rights abuses in Jammu and Kashmir do you spread your hypocrisy on your toast as well? I am sure this new awaze guy also wanted some revenge by edit warring seems allot like darkness :) NerosRevenge (talk) 21:41, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I created both. Checkuser may want to match with 202.75.53.200 Darkness Shines (talk) 21:45, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And Mar4d also called it a "tit for tat" [25] Darkness Shines (talk) 21:48, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes you created both as to prevent a so called "pov against India" much like Awazee kashmir was ranting about since you had a ban on such articles you created that sock and imitated a Indian user with a lack of english lol what a cleaver idea NerosRevenge (talk) 21:50, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This SPI is a joke. I'm actually enjoying this. Anyways, while you two continue to take wild guesses, I shall get back to my interrupted work. Oh, and I didn't know "smileys" were technical evidence. Anyway, here's a harmless "tit-for-tat" and "revengeful" smiley wishing all of you well in solving this SPI: Mar4d (talk) 07:01, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have opened an SPI on Barrot0114 at the Nangparbat SPI page, his MO is exactly the same as his last sock MarcusMaximus0 Darkness Shines (talk) 17:15, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This user is obviously involved in the area, [26] New account and he already knows of the accusations against me? Darkness Shines (talk) 17:17, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

User:DeltaQuad/SPI/NeedDiffs -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 20:15, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This list seems to contain editors from all sides, however I do not believe sockmasters editing in India/Pakistan areas are capable of pretending to support the other side. Is there a serious suggestion that Nangparbat is Mar4d... Why? Why are Barrott and Awaaz e-Kashmir the same person (given that they are violently opposed to each other) and so on. It is essential that you provide diffs showing similarities between these users edits. Or nothing is going to happen. Elen of the Roads (talk) 18:34, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, Barrott was Nangparbat. He admitted in on his talk page. He may also be NerosRevenge. I think Awaaz-e-Kashmir is a fake account to try and get me perhaps setup by Nangparbat but unsure of this, it would explain his editing from the other side as it were. Darkness Shines (talk) 18:46, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Barrott is  Confirmed as MarcusMaximus, which means he is Nangparbat. The 202 IP seems to be nothing to do with this (based on public data), nor does Mar4d, who I have not checked. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 19:05, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No doubt of that result, what of Awaaz e-Kashmir account? Darkness Shines (talk) 19:06, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And NerosRevenge may be Nangparbat, similar name to MarcusMaximus, both roman emperors. Darkness Shines (talk) 19:12, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
One at a time please. JCAla hasn't helped by listing everyone and their dog here - they are clearly not all sox of each other. Evidence has been presented that Neros Revenge is Mar4d, not Nangparbat, so I will check that - it will show up if he is Nangparbat instead. The best evidence presented for Awaaz is that he is you (and that's flimsy, but I'll check on that basis if you like :)) Elen of the Roads (talk) 19:15, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Check away, my hands are clean. Darkness Shines (talk) 19:16, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
NerosRevenge is  Confirmed Nangparbat, so your sock radar is working. Elen of the Roads (talk) 19:20, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, hat tip for that one goes to JCAla. Darkness Shines (talk) 19:22, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure Could another checkuser please look at Awaaz e-Kashmir. I'm not sure what to make of it. Definitely not Nangparbat though. Elen of the Roads (talk) 19:33, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If it is any help I occasionally login for my iPhone and at my girlfriends house. Darkness Shines (talk) 19:35, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing whatsoever to do with you, I can be perfectly clear about that. A third party has turned up and I don't want to accuse some poor soul if they are innocent. I'd rather leave it till one of the guys who looks at CU stuff all the time can take a look. Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:13, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Team up withDQ Darkness Shines (talk) 22:18, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
As we speak. Meanwhile, if you create any more SPIs based on this one, I will wring your neck. Just stop and let us finish up, will ya. Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:57, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

JCAla, if you submit another SPI like this, clearly a mass fishing expedition without proper evidence, I will fully support the clerks if they choose to close it without further ado.

Can this be shifted over to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nangparbat, as he is the only sockmaster. Thanks. Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:20, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I am sorry for that, was short of time. Otherwise I would have provided more diffs. Thanks for checking. Although I was wrong with Mar4d, I then found the right tracks, I guess. JCAla (talk) 19:09, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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